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I hace recently purchased a Farmall C. The tractor does have a water pump, but has a 3" cylinder bore. Is there any way to positively identify it as a 113 engine? Or a 123 engine? Also I am looking to do an inframe overhaul on it due to the engine being stuck. I have the oil pan off and while looking at the engine from the bottom dicovered that I will be having a problem removing the crank because of the flywheel hanging on the back of it. Is it possible to remove the crank without splitting the tractor to remove the flywheel? Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
 
nope, cant be done. get the engine engine on a stand so you can work on it properly. if you have 3" sleeves you have a 113 cid. 3 1/8 bore is 123 cid.
 
Well, splitting the tractor seems like a bunch of work and probably a bit dangerous. I may just remove all the bearing caps to get a look at the crank journals, if they look good, I may just replace the sleeves, pistons and bearings and call it good. Is there a plasti-gage spec for the rod and main bearings on the 113 engine.

Also, can 3 1/8 inch bore sleeves be installed in this engine? seems to me I have ran across other posts on this site mentioning that. Being that the engine has a water pump, I should really use the 123 head gasket with the smaller coolant holes, correct?
 
you can get the plasti-gauge at napa or the alike. and yes you can run the 3 1/8" overbore in them without boring or modifications. As for the water pump you really dont need one if you have a good radiator and good clean system.

Andrew
 
max. spec is .0035 for mains and rods.
nothing to split those little toys. just make sure you have good blocking, stands and a hoist.
not sure about the 3 1/8 sleeves though.
 
It's your call, really, but splitting a C is an Easy job. I've never split anything larger than an M, the day is comming, but I've split a few C's and A's. Really pretty easy, nothing is heavy enough to be hard to handle. Just be careful as always! Good luck, Andy
 
The water pump was probably added by a former owner. There are water pumps on many 113 engines whether in a C or an A or Bs dont worry about the gasket. Ive installed water pumps on different tractors using the 113 engine and have serviced some. Just to make sure you get the correct kit remove one sleeve and have the measurements when you call for replacements. The tractor is 60 pluss yrs old and you have no idea what former owners mite have done to it
 
You can install a sleeve kit with the piston diameter at 3.125" that will give you 123cid. Pull the engine it's not that hard. You do need a hoist to lift the the engine. Have the crankshaft measured for wear at your local auto machine shop. Buy your bearings from them. You may need the block number off your engine. It's a good time to look at your clutch when you pull the engine to see if it needs to be rebuilt or replaced. I pulled an engine from a Farmall A back in 1975 in about an hour and I did it under a shade tree using a chain hoist. You also need to block up the tractor under the frame and under the drawbar to keep it from tilting backwards when pulling the engine. Take some pictures before and after they will come in handy. Keep the parts separated don't throw them in a box all together. Mark each box where the parts were removed. You will be glad you did. Hal
 
Splitting a C to get at the engine is easy, especially if you've got a shop crane.

Block up the rear end, remove the hood, grille. Disconnect the steering shaft. The whole front bolster can be rolled away with the shop crane. Once that's done the engine is hanging out in the breeze, and comes off with like 4 bolts. Shop crane the engine off to an engine stand, and have at it.
 
You use 3.25 inch sleeves only if the block number is 354898, otherwise use 3.125 inch sleeves.
 
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