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I picked up this SH and filled cylinders 5 days ago with YIELD, a penetrant by Chemsearch. After getting it of trailer yesterday I added Marvel to cylinders. I removed starter and found the bell housing area inside was rusty looking.I tried prybarring the flywheel to no avail. I keep rocking rear tires in 5th gear. How long can it take for penetrants to work. This tractor had muffler broken over with exhaust exposed. Don't know how long. When removing plugs i noticed 2 had rust droplets on ends.
 
It can take days, weeks, months, or it may never happen.

If you've got rust on the spark plugs the cylinders are probably full of water. There is no way it will ever come loose just by soaking.
 
I had a cylinder on a W30 that had water sitting in it for years and the only way I got it loose was to heat it with a torch - then find a new one because the cylinder wall was too pitted. You may want to think about taking off the head to see how bad the damage is. From my experience water sitting makes the problem a whole lot harder than if they just set up from sitting around.
 
With your description of opening for water getting into the engine, I think you will need to remove the head and remove any water still in the cylinders so your soaking solutions can do their stuff. As OLD who frequents this site would advise fill them up with ATF and and let that do the magic along with rocking the tires frequently. You need to remove the oil pan and that will probably give you more of an idea of the level of effort need to free the engine. Best of luck in freeing her up, Hal.
 
I just had to brake the pistons out of a H,be careful I broke the bore of the motor,Im going to pull the motor today and have it sleeved.If I ever have to break pistons out again Im going to break a hole in the center of the piston and use a saw-za and cut to the outer edges

jimmy
 
Several years ago I bought a 54 Stage 2 super h. Upon walking up to it I was encouraged to see a can over the exhaust. Seems it had sat there so long the top of the can had rusted out.

Did you pull the oil pan? I pulled the oil drain plug out of the above tractor and got 3 gallons of water clear water, not oil. I didn't even try to get it loose. Ended up selling the whole tractor and looking for another project.
 
Va Gasman, I too will echo the sentient of some of the others. IMO there is no way to really know what the situation is Inside, until you get the Head and Pan off! I will bet there are at least 2 cylinders that are severely rusted up and will need heat to get them free.
You talk like you would like to get the engine going ASAP! So "Burn Out" cylinders to generate enough heat so the rust ring will break loose and the piston can be removed This method will usually allow one to salvage the Piston to at least then determine if it is reusable on not!
Same for the cylinder too. Hope this helps!
Later,
John A
 
Exhaust open means 99% of the time it has or did have water in the cylinders and one that has had rain water in pretty much means it is time to open it up. I have popped a good many tractor engines free but some will not ever do it. I only use ATF to do it and have done at least 20 but one that has rain water in them are pretty much a open it up and take it apart to free them up and yours sounds like that
 
Just my two cents being offered here. Some of the valves in the head may be stuck. Before you pull the head, push or wack the valves to see if they all move. I know that one of my tractors had a stuck valve.
Steve
 
Just quit messing around and pull the head as it has been exposed to the elements. You have stuck valves and who knows what all just pull the head and tear it down you mite be able to get the pixtons out but the valve train will be mess up. You can remove the plugs and look in the hole at the cycl walls but youre just wasting time with snake oil.
 
remove spark plugs, take compressed air and blow everything out of cylinders. most likely water on top of piston, so penetrant cannot get to rust. add penetrant and start over. failing that remove oil pan and head.

i put a jack under rod bearing and raised front of tractor off the ground, then used screwdriver in flywheel, before engine came loose. engine runs fine.

good luck
 
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