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I have a 45 H I need to haul. With the wheel dished toward the center of the tractor how narrow will the drive tires go? Thanks
 
It will fit between the fenders of most car trailers with the wheels dished out but with the hubs near the axle housings. They do not need to be dished in as on the M, except for a few trailers. Get a trailer with 83 inches between the fenders and you will have more than enough room.
 
I have 76" between fenders on trailer. I can move wheels all the way in with the dish going toward center of tractor, I would have to remove loader and brackets to turn wheels around. This is an H bought new by my Granddad, drove home from dealer by my Dad at 15 years old. Tractor is 120 miles away.
 
If that ol h is in decent shape, just fuel it up an drive it home. An H goes about 28 mph in high gear wide open. It should only take 4-5 hours. If you think I'm crazy, try driving a tractor home from 3 states away. That was a very fun and interesting trip!!! Kippster
 
Minimum tread width center to center is 64 inches with the wheels dished out as you have them. If it has 13.6 inch tires add 13.6 to 64 and you get 77.6 inches, with 12.4's, 76.4. You can probably squeeze it between the fenders. If it was my trailer, I wouldn't do that if it has 13.6's or larger. You can rent one. A bigger problem is you have the weight of the loader, with a 7000 lb GVW trailer you will likely have too much weight. If so you should rent one with enough GVW.
 
An H goes 15.625 mph in 5th with standard tires and the max rpm left alone. 28 mph is just plain dangerous.
 
Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure of the exact specs, but now I know. Guess my tractor may not be exactly stock. SHOCK! My H has 12.4-38 rears, an has been clocked by a PA state trooper at 27.5 mph. (15mph zone in town... didn't get a ticket by the way, just told to slow down) Front end is tight, all tires are good, and brakes are new. I felt comfortable an safe, just drivin through town to pick up a wagon at the co-op!! OOPS!!! LOL
 
With the tires dished in and slid all the way in, you can get it down between 60" and 72" wide.

The City of Rochester NY contracts (or used to) with a company that uses old Farmalls to plow the sidewalks. H's, M's up through 460's and 560's.

Those tractors are narrowed down to at most 72" wide. Running chains, a heat houser, and a V-plow. They go wide-open in 4th gear down the sidewalk, only slowing down for street crossings.
 
(quoted from post at 19:13:31 02/26/12) If that ol h is in decent shape, just fuel it up an drive it home. An H goes about 28 mph in high gear wide open. It should only take 4-5 hours. If you think I'm crazy, try driving a tractor home from 3 states away. That was a very fun and interesting trip!!! Kippster
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28 miles per hour? REALLY? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
(quoted from post at 20:07:37 02/26/12) Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure of the exact specs, but now I know. Guess my tractor may not be exactly stock. SHOCK! My H has 12.4-38 rears, an has been clocked by a PA state trooper at 27.5 mph. (15mph zone in town... didn't get a ticket by the way, just told to slow down) Front end is tight, all tires are good, and brakes are new. I felt comfortable an safe, just drivin through town to pick up a wagon at the co-op!! OOPS!!! LOL
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I think that PA state trooper needs to re-calibrate his radar. I've got 2 Hs, both with 12.4x38 tires. 15 miles per hour is absolute tops. Even if you tweak the governor, the most speed you MIGHT get would be MAYBE 18.
 
(quoted from post at 19:13:31 02/26/12) If that ol h is in decent shape, just fuel it up an drive it home. An H goes about 28 mph in high gear wide open. It should only take 4-5 hours. If you think I'm crazy, try driving a tractor home from 3 states away. That was a very fun and interesting trip!!! Kippster
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I had a friend tell me about a trip for his work where they drove 3 JD 9630(ish) tractors with manure tankers from Indiana to Nebraska! Also, my FIL would drive his Ford MFWD 3 car hours twice a year.
 
(quoted from post at 07:12:48 02/27/12)
(quoted from post at 19:13:31 02/26/12) If that ol h is in decent shape, just fuel it up an drive it home. An H goes about 28 mph in high gear wide open. It should only take 4-5 hours. If you think I'm crazy, try driving a tractor home from 3 states away. That was a very fun and interesting trip!!! Kippster
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28 miles per hour? REALLY? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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No kidding, mine is about half that.
 
The 15 5/8 mph speed is base on 10/11.2-38 tires, 11/12.4 tires would be a fraction faster. I too question the accuracy of the radar. Max idle speed is 1815 rpm, full load is 1650, 5th gear on a level surface is somewhere between the two. Anyway to get 27-28 mph out of that tractor, engine speed has to be around 2900 rpm. I wouldn't want to run my engines anywhere near that.
 
(quoted from post at 18:25:43 02/26/12) I have a 45 H I need to haul. With the wheel dished toward the center of the tractor how narrow will the drive tires go? Thanks
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28 miles per hour? Come on? Down hill in neutral?
 
28? LOL haha, hehe...NOT! Unless maybe you have some sort of overdrive aux. tranny. My Super H which has a taller 5th gear than a straight H goes 17mph on 12.4x38 rubber (maybe an extra mph if I have the governor tweaked for pulling). Our 2N Ford with Sherman step up tranny will hit 20, and my buddies Silver King goes significantly faster than that....but a 28 mph H. Well I do stand corrected...my buddy in Owego, NY has an H with a 283 in it...it'll do 28 plus...maybe that's what you have Kippster?
 
How did you get a Super H with gears that make it faster in 5th gear than a regular H? 5th gear is a "straight through" 1 to 1 ratio in the tranny. Your Super H may be revving up a little higher than the 1815 max. no load idle speed. If you put W-4 final drive gears in the rear end it'll make all the speeds faster, that's the only way I ever heard of to make 5th gear faster.
 
(quoted from post at 16:32:29 02/28/12) How did you get a Super H with gears that make it faster in 5th gear than a regular H? 5th gear is a "straight through" 1 to 1 ratio in the tranny. Your Super H may be revving up a little higher than the 1815 max. no load idle speed. If you put W-4 final drive gears in the rear end it'll make all the speeds faster, that's the only way I ever heard of to make 5th gear faster.
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The other day Wardner said W gears would make it slower???
 
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