What can an H do?

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2012

Hey all,

I just pulled a 1941 H out of the hedgerow and after a couple years of tinkering and getting parts, I got her going! Now I'm wondering what I can do with it. I am planning to rake hay with it for sure but I wonder if it can bale hay or run the haybine. I have a New Holland 469 Haybine that I run with an Allis D-14 and I have a New Holland 68 baler that I run with an Allis WD-45 and I wonder if an H can do more than rake if I have problems with the Allises. Thanks a lot, it was an amazing feeling driving it up and down the road after working on it for years, and what a beautiful exhaust sound. I can't wait to do some real work with it. Thanks,
Eric

Zachary Hoyt · Feb 24, 2012

I run a NH 461 haybine and a NH67 baler with my H, both are comparable to your machines I think. I would actually rather have a 68 since it has the longer tongue but so far I have not found one that was affordable. We have grass hay, so it might be a different story in alfalfa or other heavy crops. The H has enough power to run the baler with a wagon behind it and to pull up pretty steep hills in 1st gear. My H has a kerosene head and flat top pistons, so if yours has higher compression you might have an even easier time.
Zach

tractordanp · Feb 24, 2012

i used to mow with my H and a 479 new holland seemed to run it real well and my H was pretty tired did bale with it some but rather bale with 350 with live pto used H to tedd more than anything

wisbaker · Feb 24, 2012

Ran a NH super 66 with an H for a few years, we upgraded to a Super M and a JD 24T. A few times we ended up running the 24T with the H, But we were much better off with the Super M or even the JD A. The H would pull it and the wagon but we had to slow down some and the old girl was really snorting to get everything spinning to get to work. Mowing- don't know we used a new idea 30A and usually used the H to mow and rake, the A to tote wagons and the Super Mon the baler, in the spring Super M plowing, A discing and H planting

norm s · Feb 24, 2012

I have two H's. The first is a 42 H that my grandfather bought new. It is (was) a Kerosene model so has the large and small tanks. That small starter tank sure has come in handy over the years as a reserve! We always used it for mowing hay, it has a drawbar mounted 6 foot IH mower. My dad gave the tractor to me in the early 80s and I overhauled it. Flat top pistons and what I believe I remember my dad said was a high compression head. In recent years, I use it to plow with my Oliver 2-14" and I pull a 6 foot disk with a spilke tooth drag behind that, and in 4th gear in fairly heavy soil.

The other is a 50 H that my dad bought at a farm auction in the early 70s. A couple years ago I overhauled this one and put in thin wall sleeves and dome pistons. Head is what came from the factory. It runs good and for quite a number of years I've had an IH loader on it.

Now the intersting thing about these two tractors is the difference in power. The 42 H will run circles around the 50 - well not literally but there is a significant difference in power, and I have no idea why. They're virtually the same tractor but certainly different in performance. When I was growing up, this was "my" tractor. Used it to plow with the Oliver then too.

Paul from MI · Feb 24, 2012

Your H should handle a baler just fine. I've loaded a lot of bales behind an H pulling an International #45 and a New Holland #67 balers. Tractor pulled them fine, but you have no live PTO. That just makes an experienced tractor operator out of you quicker. I've pulled a 9' haybine with my JD A, but it's a load. I would think an H would handle a 7' machine ok, but never tried it.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2012

This one is kinda like that, Dad and I went and pulled it out of a friend of mine's woods when I was 17. We got it going but it didn't run very well at all so it got parked. 17 years have gone by and I've been looking at it wanting to get it going ever since. Now Dad has passed and I'm getting into farming again myself and I finally got it running and got new rims and tires on it. Hopefully it has some power left. It wants to run though... Thanks

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2012

I remember seeing Dad kick it out of gear quick when he used to bale with our Farmall M and New Holland 67. The M is set up and the ol 67 is totally shot so I had to make other arrangements. Can't wait to see what the H will do. Thanks

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2012

Yeah the WD-45 is nice with the live pto, I just like the sound of the H and it feels great to drive it after wanting to get it going for so many years

Chester5731 · Feb 25, 2012

(quoted from post at 19:02:10 02/24/12) I run a NH 461 haybine and a NH67 baler with my H, both are comparable to your machines I think. I would actually rather have a 68 since it has the longer tongue but so far I have not found one that was affordable. We have grass hay, so it might be a different story in alfalfa or other heavy crops. The H has enough power to run the baler with a wagon behind it and to pull up pretty steep hills in 1st gear. My H has a kerosene head and flat top pistons, so if yours has higher compression you might have an even easier time.
Zach

Zachary, how long is the pto shaft on your baler? I tried pulling my NH67 with my H and the pto would pull apart. It had enough power, but I got tired of putting the pto shaft back together.

heavyhaulertoo · Feb 25, 2012

It will pull anything that the d14 can do, I've got both of them. If it had the high alt pistons in the h, it will keep up to the 45. I've got a sh that pulls out 45 horse's.

randy hall · Feb 25, 2012

zach, why are you baling the wrong way? always turn right, not left. the pto shaft won't rattle and you won't hit the wagon with the bale chute.

Farmallhal · Feb 25, 2012

Eric, I grew up here on the farm in the late 40's and 50's when almost everyone in this area had a H Farmall with a few larger M's and the smaller A's and C's. I saw lots of baling taking place with the H's and also they were the main mowing tractor with the old pitman driven sickle bar mowers of the era. Baling with one will take a lot of patience unless you can keep your windrows of a constant size and dryness. The first baler we had was one with it's own 4 cyl. Wisconsin engine which made it a fine baling tractor since you didn't have to deal with the trasmission driven PTO. I really think you will need or at least want more horsepower for a discbine or disc mower though it will make a fine hay rake tractor with a narrow front end. Hope you can utilize your H somehow in your hay operation as they are a real pleasure to use, drive and to hear them work, Hal.

Super-H-Mike · Feb 25, 2012

I have baled many loads using a straight H or a SH, on a JD 14T, New Holland 67, and it will handle it fine. Steep hills with a full hay rack might be interesting though! You should make smaller rows to keep from slugging her down. I just slip it in nuetral quick and let it catch up if need be. Not ideal, but very managible. A Farmall C is the ideal mowing and raking tractor in my opinion and expierence. They manuver better than an H.

Super-H-Mike · Feb 25, 2012

I love to hear the sound of an H snorting when the plunger hits,music to my ears ! Hard to beat the sweet sound of a straight H when working.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 25, 2012

I do love the sound of it. I've got the WD-45 if the going gets tough and I will rake with it for sure because both Allises have 3rd gear problems so I think the H will have the perfect raking speed and will probably run cheaper on gas than the WD-45 or the D-14. Thanks I can,t wait to get her out after all the blood sweat and years it took to get running.
Eric

Will Provine · Feb 25, 2012

wow really? I thought the 14 had 10 hp on the H maybe that doesnt make such a big difference. The baler rocks the 14 a lot that's why I use the 45 even though that has a regular WD motor on it so it's about the same as the 14 power wise. It'll be interesting to try it on the H.
Thanks

Anonymous-0 · Feb 25, 2012

Great pic Zac thanks for sharing. Thats my next step is to pressure wash mine and get some paint on it so it looks more like yours
Eric

The Dukester · Feb 25, 2012

Through the years I've had quite a lot of experience with H series tractors. First the '41 H my uncle had on the farm that I drove on the haywagon loading loose hay when I was just a boy of 8 and then doing all farm jobs when I went to work full time on the farm in my high school years. Then came a new '50 H with the high speed 4th gear that was our "2nd" tractor on the farm. Next came the '45 H I owned myself in the early '80's when I did some part-time farming on my own and finally a neighboring friend's Super H I used cultivating with a 4 row cultivator during the 4 years I farmed. Any H in decent shape can handle most implements made in the same era. But the Super H was what all H's should have been with it's extra power and better gear speeds. The Super H had enough power to handle the mounted 4 row cultivator and I doubt that any of the regular H's could have. My Super M did handle it better though because of it's extra weight and power. All in all, H's were fine tractors and one of the most desired and respected tractors in their time.

Zachary Hoyt · Feb 25, 2012

The picture is deceptive, actually my H is pretty ugly from most angles but someday I hope to clean it up and paint it. The grill came off a parts tractor and has 30/30 paint (looks good from 20 yards at 30 MPH) but most of the tractor is blotchy red and yellow and rust colored.
Zach

Zachary Hoyt · Feb 25, 2012

Normally I do bale right, but that was the outside windrow of the field and ahead of the tractor(at photo left) there is a steep bank along the side of the field so that tractor has to stay on the inside of the windrow. After the first pass around we turned and went the normal way. The guy on the tractor was a visitor, it was his first time driving a tractor but he did well. I was on the wagon stacking the bales.
Zach

Ed Hotaling · Feb 25, 2012

I used my H on MF #12 baler with no problems. There is a need to be aware of the tractor's capabilities. I baled in first gear which was fine for that baler. I did buy a 9 foot JD mower-conditioner, but never used it with the H although the guy I got it from said it had been used with one. Bigger tractors may do the work faster, but an H can do an awful lot. The hardest I ever worked mine was baling in a sloped field using the kicker and wagon. I think the most gas I ever went through was about 5 gallons baling all afternoon.

JDnTN · Feb 25, 2012

What can an H do? My uncle had one he bought new in 44 and along with 10 hand milked cows, it put 2 kids through college. Just another view. I still have it, by the way.

Rick Remmert · Feb 26, 2012

Just a passing thought. For all the bales I have bucked, which is probably not close to what some of you have, it takes a real farmer to buck bales in jean shorts!!!

oldtanker · Feb 26, 2012

(quoted from post at 19:02:10 02/24/12) I run a NH 461 haybine and a NH67 baler with my H, both are comparable to your machines I think. I would actually rather have a 68 since it has the longer tongue but so far I have not found one that was affordable. We have grass hay, so it might be a different story in alfalfa or other heavy crops. The H has enough power to run the baler with a wagon behind it and to pull up pretty steep hills in 1st gear. My H has a kerosene head and flat top pistons, so if yours has higher compression you might have an even easier time.
Zach

I have a super 68 baler, works good, paid 400 for it. Would almost be willing to get rid of it but I still do straw in small squares.

Rick

Anonymous-0 · Feb 26, 2012

I like my 68 too nice little baler and I only gave
$500. for it at an auction. It has a motor kicker too
so my little tractors don.t have to give up the extra
h.p.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 26, 2012

You know I sometimes forget that back when they were new that was a big tractor meant to do anything that needed doing. Thanks

doubleN · Feb 28, 2012

zachy-

You are a'balin "bass ackwards," boy. No such thing as longer tongue/shorter tongue. Solve your problem by baling the other direction.

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