tractor implement

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

I have a Farmall 450 with a 5 foot wide disc attachment. The discing works great, but I do have one question. I see that the bigger tractors pulling the 16 foot wide disc also have some type of attachment behind the disc that packs the soil down somewhat. Basically a lot of tires in a row, they look like they probably have water or sand in them. Can you please tell me what that implement is called... I would like to see if I can get one for a small tractor like mine.

redblood · Mar 12, 2009

I believe you are talking about a cultipacker.

They are available you just have to search some to find them. But they are not filled with anythingbut iron and air and are quite heavy.

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

Thanks so much.

A google search for "lots of tires behind a disc" didn't give me anything.

Janicholson · Mar 12, 2009

If the disk you have is a deep tillage implement with the front set of blades in one direction, and the rear in the other direction, that is about right for it (maybe a bit small). if it is a 4 gang disk two fronts different opposite angles, and two reae mirroring the front, then it is small for the 450. A 10' disk harrow is reasonable in moderate soil, or 8' in heavy clays.
It is likely, as noted, a cultipacker being used behind the disk. JimN

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

Thanks, I have the disc like the one in the picture, except I have a 3 point attachment, not the fast hitch type.

The cultipacker, is the main purpose for this to level the ground again and pack it a little, just to keep in the moisture?

Janicholson · Mar 12, 2009

That is the deeper tillage unit and will be OK. A spring tooth drag can also be used to smooth/level behind the disk. Neither will be easily lifted behind the disk. JimN

Allan in NE · Mar 12, 2009

Tony,

That gizmo you're looking at with all the tires is used in construction/maintenance to pack and firm the soil for a solid roadbed.

Allan

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

Hmmm... That's wierd, wonder why he was using it when he was discing my field???

Thanks
Tony

IH fan · Mar 12, 2009

Normal "tandem" disc size for a 450 should be 12' to 15' depending on your soil. For an "offset" disc like the one in the picture, more like an 8' due to the deeper depth they will work. I agree that the 5' with a packer would be more of a construction or landscaper implement. as to why someone is working your field with it, maybe that's what he had available. Wheat farmers pack the soil behind a disc so when they go over the ground with their tractor and drill, the tractor doesn't leave as deep of tracks and the soil makes better contact with the seed. Also if you get a rain after drilling the wheat, it will not wash as bad and possibly need re-seeding.

georgeky · Mar 12, 2009

Ain't a 5 foot disk a bit narrow for the 450? I pulled a 10 footer with my 450 and M. Don't seem like a 5 footer would harrow out the tire tracks.

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

OK, I think I'm going to get a lot of ....., but the farmer that is working my field for the first time (field has been sitting for probably a decade lots of grass and weeds) He said he needed to Disc the land twice before Plowing or the grass "sod" would probably flip back over during the plowing. So he needed to cut up the sod with the disc first. Does that sound correct?

ALso. from talking the 2 farmers that are working the field it sounds like. Discing, plowing, harrowing, seed drilling, then corrigating in that order... Does that work? I'm planting Alfalfa.

garytomaszewski · Mar 12, 2009

Are you paying these guys for hours or per acre?? What is corrigating ? Many times we use a burndown spray (Roundup) then no-till drill in the pasture mix/ hay seed.

IH fan · Mar 12, 2009

Must do things different in Idaho. What the heck is a corrigator or corrigating?

Allan in NE · Mar 12, 2009

I'd sure do the corrigating before ya drill it.

Alfalfa only wants to be planted about 1/8 of an inch deep.

If ya run that cultivator thru there after planting and you're gonna end up with a "striped" field.

Allan

Allan in NE · Mar 12, 2009

"Corrigating" is used for flood irrigation of drilled crops.

Before planting the seedbed is ditched to carry the water thru the crop in one direction only.

Allan

IH fan · Mar 12, 2009

(quoted from post at 13:05:12 03/12/09) "Corrigating" is used for flood irrigation of drilled crops.

Before planting the seedbed is ditched to carry the water thru the crop in one direction only.

Allan

Thanks Allen.

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

I am paying the farmer per acre. $15/disc and $25/plow The other farmer doing the actual planting is $45/hour

In Idaho, we do not get a lot of rain in the summer, so we flood irrigate the land. The corrigating, basically make little valleys that the water from the ditch goes down and waters all the alfalfa.

garytomaszewski · Mar 12, 2009

Thanks for the explaination, here in Illinois quite often at haying time it's trying to pick the 3 days that might be dry enough to get the job done.

LMack · Mar 12, 2009

With a cut-away harrow like the one in the picture, you should be able to set the unit so that the finished work would be very smooth. If you have a 5-speed, your 450 will pull that harrow in 4th gear with no trouble (4.5 to 5 mph). The max you should need would need would be a drag to break up clods. You can rig that behind the harrow but as others have said, it will not lift with the harrow.

Handyman · Mar 12, 2009

that roller is a tire roller, its just a bunch of truck tires stacked together over a steel pipe with a plate steel flange welded to each end to keep the tires on, then a shaft is put through the center for an axle,pillow block bearings are mounted at each end and a frame is built to make a towbar for it. usually they are run dry but could be made to fill pipe with water if wanted. I have seen them anywhere from 6 feet wide to 24 feet wide.

Tony_Idaho · Mar 12, 2009

OK, It's a tire roller. Any real need for one of
them? Or is it just the pack the dirt a little
after discing?

Janicholson · Mar 12, 2009

Rollers of any type work to break up clods and prep a seed bed by light compaction.
If the soil is mellow and loose, a roller is useful. If it is tight and clay based, it might not do the desired job. Smashing clods into a flat level field of clods makes no better seed bed Been there in north Indiana. JimN

Handyman · Mar 13, 2009

Tire rollers are mostly used just before killing potato plants prior to harvest, this seals the cracks that form in the dirt and allow sunlight to get down to the tubers and turn them green. I have seen them used behind tillage equipment sometimes, and to press seed down for better contact with the soil.

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