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A few weeks ago on the tractor talk forum there was a person asking about what planter to get to use with his super m. Many responses were to get a 4 to 6 row john deere 7000 series planter. I usually don"t doubt peoples advice on here but could a super m handle a 4 row 7000 series planter without pulling its guts out? I"m in a similar situation and was wondering if I needed a little bigger tractor to handle that series planter? I would be planting around 125 to 130 acres of corn each year. I know a super m could handle a 4 row planter of early era but the 7000 series seems to be built fairly stout. Any opinions welcome

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smalltimer
 
Not around here. The ground is too hilly and a Super M isn't heavy enough to control even an older IH 56 planter with filled fertilizer boxes.

Maybe on the flat it would be okay.
 
I "pull" a 6 row(3point) Jd #70 planter with my superM.Its setup with double tool bars,(water)furrowers,Insecticide boxes,liquid fert attachments(the tanks are on the tractor).Yes,its heavy,the tractor has the live (hi-pressure) pump.Absolutely NO Hp issues.I'm planting 125(irrigated) acres this year.
 
(quoted from post at 23:23:45 02/15/12) A few weeks ago on the tractor talk forum there was a person asking about what planter to get to use with his super m. Many responses were to get a 4 to 6 row john deere 7000 series planter. I usually don"t doubt peoples advice on here but could a super m handle a 4 row 7000 series planter without pulling its guts out? I"m in a similar situation and was wondering if I needed a little bigger tractor to handle that series planter? I would be planting around 125 to 130 acres of corn each year. I know a super m could handle a 4 row planter of early era but the 7000 series seems to be built fairly stout. Any opinions welcome

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smalltimer
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I have pulled a John Deere 495 with the full compliment of fertilizer, insecticide, and herbicide boxes with a Farmall H. 1st gear only, but it got the job done. Your Super M should handle a 4 row with ease, and most likely the 6 row wouldn't be too much for it.
 
No problem. Could handle a 6 row easy. They've been pulling them for year's in my part of the country. Even a few H's pulled the 4 rows.
 
I would occasionally pull our 4 row 7000 with a straight M. This was doing conventional planting. When we no-tilled I would have 750lbs of weight on the frame and also fill the insecticide boxes with bags of sand for weight. We used the 706 on it then.

Gene
 
Never have been able to understand why people use a 100+ HP tractor to pull a 4 or 6 row planter. My deceased father in law always pulled a JD 7000 six row no till planter with a 4600Ford while his 5000 Ford set in the toolshed. Said he just liked the 4600 better. He planted several hundred acres each year in hilly Kentucky acres. Joe
 
The big thing abput what tractor will pull or will not pull when it comes to planting is GROUND SPEED . To plant wright and get the population correct as you can ground speed is the big factor . This is where size matters . Along with conventional or no till. I have a 1240 platelet and the S/MTA will pull it just fine at 4 mph on well fit ground . The 7000 J D no till the S/MTA will not lift when it is loaded with the 3x8 cylinder neither will the 720 Deere Now if we installed a 4x8 it might lift it . BUT neither the S/MTA of the J D 720 will maintain ground speed on the hills. they will slip with no weight . So we either use the 706 or the 806 . They have the weight they have the hyd.and they have more then enough horse power to maintain the speed and keep the 4.5 mph that we plant at with the 7000.
 
Shoot, I had a 490 runner style John Deere planter with fertilizer attachment and I could pull it with my little John Deere H on fairly level fitted down plowed fields. But where it was hilly I used my Farmall H or Super M. Was nice with the little H, so easy to get off and on, plant all day on 5-6 gallons of gas...Farmall H used 10, Super M 12-14.
 
(quoted from post at 10:16:28 02/16/12) Never have been able to understand why people use a 100+ HP tractor to pull a 4 or 6 row planter. My deceased father in law always pulled a JD 7000 six row no till planter with a 4600Ford while his 5000 Ford set in the toolshed. Said he just liked the 4600 better. He planted several hundred acres each year in hilly Kentucky acres. Joe
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Why? Because you can pull it at a decent speed, and a consistent speed.

Sure you can get it done with a little tractor but you're going slow, stopping to shift at every little hill.

If you've got the 100HP tractor to do the job, then why not use it? You'll get it done quicker and more consistently.
 
I think it would pull a 6 row on flat ground fine. I do agree hydraulics may be an issue. My H with the belly pump would not lift the arms on a 6 row 7000 JD. I have not tried it since converting to live hydraulics.
 
I think itd be just fine, have a neighbor pulling a cycloair 600 6 row with a smta no-tilling in the nasty clay hills of pike county. We also have pulled our 7000 6 row loaded to the brim with 32%,insecticide and seed with dads 630 jd (same as M) in the flat, would have to stop to lift at first due to weight but pulled just fine.

Cort
 
The smallest anybody here uses is a 4020. They say an M can't pull it. These belly pump systems are pretty worthless. I doubt they would lift it full.
 
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