IH 3 bottom trailer plow

Dave8N in Pa · Feb 4, 2012

Can anyone tell me how old this plow would be if it has steel spoke wheels and rubber tires.

plowman · Feb 4, 2012

Do you know the model? Post a picture.

mkirsch · Feb 4, 2012

Spoke wheels with rubber tires indicate that the plow was originally steel-wheeled, and the steel wheels were cut off and replaced with rims for rubber tires.

Going with the odds and assuming this is a Little Genius #8 plow, this doesn't help much. The #8 was built from 1928-1960, and was available with steel wheels through the entire production run...

Dave8N in Pa · Feb 4, 2012

Thanks,but I don't the info yet.

AG in IN · Feb 4, 2012

I'd say 95+% of existing IH plows with spoke wheels with rubber tires were steel originally, but cut down later and pneumatic rims installed.

I once thought they all were, but was told here that they all were not. Parts books for some early plows mention other rims for rubber than the disk rim, but don't show pictures. An era-correct operator's manual or earlier parts book might show pictures.

Here's an older topic:
http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?p=3753467&highlight=#3753467

There's an explanation of the spoke types by Brian Schmidt.

AG

robgIN · Feb 4, 2012

the later plows had a separate hub and a bolt on automotive style rim. The earlier ones were round spoke and were hub and all. There were also steel wheel versions. There was also a cast spoked wheel for rubber tires, I have one for the furrow wheel, it was either for late plows or sold as replacements, not sure.

robgIN · Feb 4, 2012

here's a pic of the cast demountable rim type

AG in IN · Feb 4, 2012

(quoted from post at 02:15:31 02/05/12) here's a pic of the cast demountable rim type

You beat me to the other style I was going to mention, also. I was going to call those the 2-piece style with wedges, but I doubt people would have understood what I was trying to say.

AG

Dave8N in Pa · Feb 4, 2012

Ok, next question. Did all those years have moldboards with replacable shins?

Dave8N in Pa · Feb 4, 2012

I would have understood,just like moble home wheels.

AG in IN · Feb 4, 2012

(quoted from post at 02:15:31 02/05/12) here's a pic of the cast demountable rim type

Furrow wheel PO2516 was used from 1939-40 only according to parts books. Should have a 16 inch rim. Rare piece. Complete assembly is POW 516.
Land wheel of this style would have used a 21 inch tire, again, according to the book. Where does someone go looking for a tire to put on a 3.25X21 inch rim these days? Motorcycle, maybe? Rear was still a narrow 12 inch'er.

The parts book refers to pages for illustrations of these wheels and fails to show these wheels in the illustrations.

AG

AG in IN · Feb 4, 2012

(quoted from post at 03:07:56 02/05/12) Ok, next question. Did all those years have moldboards with replacable shins?

Yes, there were some early tractor plow bottoms with shins available, but they weren't like the shins that were commonplace later. Many of these shins bolted to the side of the frog. The majority of early bottoms did not have shins.

Later Plow Chief and all Super Chief (available from roughly the mid 50's and later) bottoms had shins that bolted through the front of the frog, just like the moldboards.

But, the vast majority of tractor plow bottoms have like beam-to-frog bolt patterns, which allow the Plow Chief and "modern" Super Chief bottoms to bolt right up to a 75 year old plow. Some of these plows had bottoms changed over years ago if they were still in use as wear parts for earlier-style bottoms became unavailable.

Pics or part numbers would help confirm what you have.

AG

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