Super MVD high crop First one I have EVER saw!

Just found this on EBAY.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Farmall-Super-M-Diesel-HIGH-CROP-Tractor-SMDV-Hi-Clearance-Vegetable-MD-H-IH-NR-/110816934701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd343b2d

Kinda neat and local for pick up! lol

Now if it turns out to be a '54...... LOL

Yea, I will never hear the end of that! lol

(BTW,it is a 53 according to the add.)

I inquired about it last night. It is currently in Buenos Aires Argentina.

why would someone buy a tractor that they would have to wait for why is it not in the states yet ,sounds like a scam to me

Maybe they need the EBAY money first (ALL $11.000 of it !!!)so they can THEN boat the thing into the Continental U.S. ????

It DOES sound kinda "fishy" .That is one HE!! of an import charge.

They had a 52 SMDV at the Mecum sale last spring. It was a crappy restoration if you asked me and the correct police. The finishing touches were just not perfect. I can't really point out one thing that I didn't like. Anyhow, there is a picture of it in this months Red Power Magazine in their ad. It sold for $19,000.

That one looks like it could use quite a bit of help. You would have a tough time putting less than $8000 in it. On the upside it has live hyd...

I don't know, one of the tires is obviously bad, I'd have to dock about 10 grand for that.....

I won't comment on the "scam" potential but I would not do business that way. For starters, I would fix the flat. Hard to load and unload the tractor the way it is. I would also make sure the pictures were perfect and not shot with a cheap cell phone. If the seller can't be bothered to have someone email him good pictures, how hard is this guy trying?

Of course, the biggest problem is its location. I don't think the seller has any confidence that the sale will offset the cost of shipping. If that is the case, the sale and subsequent delivery will never happen. The $500 deposit will be refunded by eBay. OTOH, I am guessing four tractors can be crammed into a 40' container. Tied to this shipping problem is the seller's dependance on several third parties to actually get the tractor(s) on a boat.

There are mistakes in the ad. The SMTADV that he refers to has been sold at least three times in the last 6.5 years. The first sale in PA (I was in attendance and there is my post/report here on YT) was around $40,000. The second sale in IL may have been around $75,000 but I am not sure. I have heard that the last sale reverted back to $40,000.

The MV he said sold for $34,000 at the Freeman Auction is a lie. It sold for about $5000. See picture below.

Lastly, why would an experienced tractor man use the term "International Farmall". It is one or the other or IH Farmall. This is annoying, at the least, and suspect overall.

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Mike,

That balance is due upon delivery.. $500 deposit which eBay will refund if there is a problem.

I have freinds that used ebay and they DO NOT stand behind any one good luck if there is a problem

Vin,

That's baloney. eBay's Buyer Protection works. I have invoked it three times and have gotten refunds. It is a no-hassle program. It does take several weeks though.

I ship Containers full of copiers to South America. Cost about $3500. from Houston. I suspect return trip would be the same or less as the ships return lightly loaded or empty. We don't import much from S America other that some ag products, Fruit,sugar, etc.

Now ships coming from China is another story.

Yea Wardner,

I DID NOT fully read the add.I was busy lookin at the pictures of the "COULD be pretty Farmall that I will never own"! :/

I dont know why it isnt already here for potential buyers to look at in person???? If they only need a $500.00 deposit to start the ball rolling,then what is the big deal with just going ahead and getting it here??? I am sure SOMEBODY wants this thing !!!!! If it is going to end up in Kokomo,I would go see it for real.

Like CenTex said, I too would have to dock about $10K for not only the flat tire, but all the missing parts, like no battery, light bar but missing the hard to come by 12 volt sealed beam lights, no distributor, no generator, belt pulley drive is there but the pulley itself is gone. Then there are all the "unauthorized" modifications, like extra tabs welded to the drawbar, and the non-stock fuel "filters" that have been added, (they actually look like water separators actually), and what about those six hinges in the hood? Good idea as far as service goes, but means a search for a correct diesel hood for restoration. On the bright side, since it is not a TA, the hood from any MD should fit. Speaking of that, it is a stage one so no live hydraulics either.

Seller also has a 730 high-crop "outhouse", oops, I mean JOHN deere for sale that also is listed as being from Argentina, along with a '49 model "outhouse" M being in Kansas. he is also selling hay out of Georgia as well, so I think this guy is simply a broker. he does have a website at http://www.thetractorbarn.com/ but it gives scant little additional information.

He has also changed his eBay name once, but it was back in 2006. He used to go by greenacresequipment. He does have 100% on his feedback, no withdrawn feedback, but he also has one neutral mark that says the tractor was already sold without the owner knowing. It is less than 6 months old, so not sure what exactly to make of that. On the other hand, there are plenty of sales to others that praise him for being able to get the deal done and arrange shipping for them.

On the plus side, I am only about 50 miles from Nashville, so if it turns out to be a rip-off, I can pay a "social" visit to the seller for a small fee, of course, , provided that he actually IS in Nashville, as I just noticed that his area code does not match Nashville's. He listed it as 512, which is Texas, but for Nashville Tennessee it should be 615, even the cell phones.

As for why the tractor is not here yet, it is probably because he doesn't want to pay the shipping here in case someone in a different country buys it. Just saves money and trouble with customs that way, not to mention the bonds that would need to be posted.

That is all the info I could find in 30 minutes or less, so do with it what you will. My personal opinion is the guy is legit, but WAY overpriced on everything!

What kind of injection pump is that and what are the lines coming off of it for?

Dan

Coopertownbob,

That was alot of research, some of which I didn't know was possible. Good eye with the photos, too.

However, I don't think the cell phone companies care what area code anybody uses.

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Dan

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The lines coming off of it are rubber fuel hose guessing by where they go. One from tank to pump. One from pump to behind air filter (return) and one to filters. Look at the fuel filters. They are pretty strange looking as well.

(quoted from post at 01:41:07 01/31/12) Coopertownbob,

That was alot of research, some of which I didn't know was possible. Good eye with the photos, too.

However, I don't think the cell phone companies care what area code anybody uses.

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Thanks. I've been a Farmall man all my life, and have concentrated on the letter series. I took that part about the phone number possibly being kept when he moved here into consideration when I said I thought he was legit, just maybe a broker. What part did you not know was possible, maybe I can explain how to do it for you if you're interested?

Didn't know that name changes were visible. I assume the account and email address remains the same. In other words, he did not open another account with a new name and email.

Didn't know that withdrawn feedback was visible. I know a seller who has had quite a few negatives withdrawn, and consequently, his feedback remains at a high 99.7. He doesn't deserve that. However, eBay won't give him a "top seller ribbon" even though he has over 22,000 auctions.

(quoted from post at 18:42:26 01/30/12) What kind of injection pump is that and what are the lines coming off of it for?

Dan

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the injection pump is a AMERICA BOSH , they were a standard fit ,they only had 1 filter , somebody has fitted some strange filters ...

Well,contacted seller.I DID mention the fact on how much would have to be done to make it original/legit !!!!

He is thinking he has a SOLID offer of $11500.00 for this thing! He was "projecting" $15,000.00 I am not believing it.(BTW,There was NO bid showing when he told me that.)

Is it honestly worth $15,000.00 (PLEASE dont tell me that "It is worth what someone is willing to pay for it" crap !!!!)

I think stuff like Barret Jackson and Russo and Steele have done nothing but F#$K up the market for junk like this! Whoever gets it is gonna have to put some serious labor into it to make it NOTHING but a "show pony only" priced out of reach "shelf trophy" .

I bet the FINAL owner(AFETR IT IS RESTORED) wont have EVER had a back ground in tractors.Will just have something to show his friends,"look what I bought!" LMAO

well i am not sure , of the market value of them all but MDV are a bit rarer and i guess it will need some money thrown at it ,but they do not make them any more .
i had to pay $15000-00 for this tractor -plus i needed to throw another $4000-00 to get it back to Australia. i might never get my money back,and i sure aint made of money ,i had to sell a couple of things and scrounge around a bit but i am happy with what i did

(quoted from post at 22:35:16 01/31/12) well i am not sure , of the market value of them all but MDV are a bit rarer and i guess it will need some money thrown at it ,but they do not make them any more .
i had to pay $15000-00 for this tractor -plus i needed to throw another $4000-00 to get it back to Australia. i might never get my money back,and i sure aint made of money ,i had to sell a couple of things and scrounge around a bit but i am happy with what i did

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Nice, complete looking MDV. Was that price in US or Aussie dollars?

I especially like the vintage looking rear rubber, that looks to be in really good shape!

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Didn't know that name changes were visible. I assume the account and email address remains the same. In other words, he did not open another account with a new name and email.

Didn't know that withdrawn feedback was visible. I know a seller who has had quite a few negatives withdrawn, and consequently, his feedback remains at a high 99.7. He doesn't deserve that. However, eBay won't give him a "top seller ribbon" even though he has over 22,000 auctions.

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Take a look at this screen capture. The areas you need to know about are circled in red.



Where the arrow is in the upper right, is where you click to see if they have changed their handle and when. Below that circled is where you see if they have had any changes to see if they have any feedback that was revised later, Looking to the left side of the page in the middle you see the star ratings area. if you click on any number showing the amount of feedbacks left for that type, (i.e. neg etc...) you will get a screen showing just those comments so you can readily see what happened. And the smaller circle above it is the feedback number, if you click on this when ever you first see his name, it will bring you to this page showing above.

I hope I was clear enough.

Yea Melonreo, But YOUR tractor is WAY MORE complete than the one being advertised.(NICE ride,BTW !!!! I like her !


Yours is a GREAT candidate to be made "perfect","showy" if you would ever want to do so.

The one on EBAY looks like it would be next to impossible to ever get some of the CORRECT parts to make it a "$40,000.00" tractor like the advertiser says it could be.

In order to actually "fetch" that kinda money for a restored tractor,I would say it would have to be P E R F E C T !!!!! AND have every little detail as so the "correct police" COULD NOT even write you a citation or warning ticket !!!!!

I have been a part of some "concours" style restorations,and I am here to say most people selling stuff like this DO NOT realize where the true value of the tractor comes from.Yes,a part of it is in the rarity of being only 89 ever built,BUT the biggest part is the intense LABOR it takes to make these things FLAWLESS!!!! Once this seller gets his cash,HE is out of it !!!!! Once the new owner gets it,it will be hundreds of hours getting it to actually amounting to anything!

Just my opinion

(quoted from post at 19:35:16 01/31/12) well i am not sure , of the market value of them all but MDV are a bit rarer and i guess it will need some money thrown at it ,but they do not make them any more .
i had to pay $15000-00 for this tractor -plus i needed to throw another $4000-00 to get it back to Australia. i might never get my money back,and i sure aint made of money ,i had to sell a couple of things and scrounge around a bit but i am happy with what i did

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Like Mike said, yours is in A LOT better shape. It isn't a super though...

Did it come from Wisconsin?

Wonder about the front and rear rims and tire equipment, size ETC? Sure is different than the standard US.

(quoted from post at 06:20:20 02/01/12) Wonder about the front and rear rims and tire equipment, size ETC? Sure is different than the standard US.

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i was told it came from the factory like that , it is a extra high clearence

sflem849
i purchased the tractor from a gent in New York , it was advertised on tractor house, but it had apperently traveld from california to new york , (thank god the tyers werent touching the ground) she has done some travelling

CoopertownBob
the price i paid was $15000-00 USD

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(quoted from post at 06:20:20 02/01/12) Wonder about the front and rear rims and tire equipment, size ETC? Sure is different than the standard US.

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i was told it came from the factory like that , it is a extra high clearence

sflem849
i purchased the tractor from a gent in New York , it was advertised on tractor house, but it had apperently traveld from california to new york , (thank god the tyers werent touching the ground) she has done some travelling

CoopertownBob
the price i paid was $15000-00 USD

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Thanks, I knew of one in WI that sold last year with the same super high setup. IIRC it was a gasser though, but I have forgotten things before. :lol: