Changing the oil for the transmission I removed metal pieces that seemed to be from a bearing race but after removing the trans top I was not able to find anything out of sorts and the 4 bearings I could see looked to be intacked. There isn't any noticeable noise in trans and it seems to work fine. Can anyone think of anything else I should check before putting it back together?
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I'd drag a magnet around the bottom just to be sure you have everything. That, or flush it with kerosene. It may be from a previous repair, but it never hurts to clean it good.
Ellis Kinney
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Were you able to visually check the inner and outer axle bearings? If one of those gets caught between the housing and the bull gear you have PROBLEMS. Been there. Ellis
Janicholson
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Chasing the non-problem is horrible.
It could have issues that need direct attention, but it likely does not. If you have taken the load off of the axles by jacking the housing and having someone spin the wheel while you listen to the axle housing with a stethescope, or broomstick on your ear and in contact with the housing. If all is quiet, the bearings are at least not falling out. As you set it down, watch the axle at the retainer where it sticks out to see if there is dramatic movement as weight is applied. If so the inner and outer axle bearings should be replaced. Over many yeard, the teeth and splines will shed fragments. If no substantive whole components are in the grit, I would button it and put houre on it with a magnet on the drain plug. if little further is collected, all is well. Jim
It could have issues that need direct attention, but it likely does not. If you have taken the load off of the axles by jacking the housing and having someone spin the wheel while you listen to the axle housing with a stethescope, or broomstick on your ear and in contact with the housing. If all is quiet, the bearings are at least not falling out. As you set it down, watch the axle at the retainer where it sticks out to see if there is dramatic movement as weight is applied. If so the inner and outer axle bearings should be replaced. Over many yeard, the teeth and splines will shed fragments. If no substantive whole components are in the grit, I would button it and put houre on it with a magnet on the drain plug. if little further is collected, all is well. Jim
CenTex Farmall
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Grab and pull/push on the gear that is the end of the input shaft. Those two you can't really see. They turn at a higher RPM than the rest and seem to wear sooner compared with the rest of the bearings.
And what Jim said about checking axle play. You can also jack one side and then the other and pry under the tire to check for play, like checking ball joints on a car.
Did the fractured parts have shiny surfaces or dark? If they're dark then they've probably been in there a while and left over from a previous failure. Back in the fall I pulled a ball or two and several ball pieces from inside a 450 I was cleaning up. Scared me at first, but they were dark and upon pulling the brake housing found a newish non-IH bearing on the left side of the diff indicating the original failure point. So it is possible that they're leftovers.
And what Jim said about checking axle play. You can also jack one side and then the other and pry under the tire to check for play, like checking ball joints on a car.
Did the fractured parts have shiny surfaces or dark? If they're dark then they've probably been in there a while and left over from a previous failure. Back in the fall I pulled a ball or two and several ball pieces from inside a 450 I was cleaning up. Scared me at first, but they were dark and upon pulling the brake housing found a newish non-IH bearing on the left side of the diff indicating the original failure point. So it is possible that they're leftovers.
Funny you should say that, I started cleaning the inside of the trans really good with a pump up sprayer with kerosene and managed to break up all the sticky goop that was keeping the axle bearing quiet. The bearings are still in place but the race has broken up. Do I need to remove the wheel and axle to get this bearing out or can I just remove the gear from the inside to gain access to the bearing?
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