Rear weights for Super C: Installing

Larry Hardesty · Jan 11, 2012

I just got a pair of rear weights (one piece) for my Super C. Any tips on installing them? I think the manual say 140-145 pounds so they are not light, and I want to be careful.

Bookman

IAtractorKid · Jan 11, 2012

I stick two bolts through the respective holes in the weight and then lift it up to the hub. If you hold onto the weight correctly, you can support it and push the bolts through one at a time. Once through, the weight will hang on them. Keep one hand on the weight so it does not slide off, and use the other to get the nuts started and then put the other two bolts through and tighten everything down!

Age may play a factor in this method though...I am nice and young so 150lbs is not much of a struggle for me.

mkirsch · Jan 11, 2012

Lift with your knees, not with your back.

There really are no tricks to it. Just muscle it up there and get the first bolt in. Once you've got that, you're golden.

I've seen guys use forklifts, cherry pickers, etc. to do the lifting.

You can cut some studs from 3/4" all thread and bolt them to the wheel center, nut on each side, to make it easier. Then just slide the weights on over the studs and add a nut. It doesn't look original, though.

IH fan · Jan 11, 2012

(quoted from post at 08:13:48 01/11/12) You can cut some studs from 3/4" all thread and bolt them to the wheel center, nut on each side, to make it easier. Then just slide the weights on over the studs and add a nut. It doesn't look original, though.

This is what I did when installing weights on my 240U. Made it a lot easier than trying to "wiggle" bolts around to line up. Of course this may not work on all tractors, but the 240 weights had clearance for a nut in the back side of the weight.

Allan from PA · Jan 11, 2012

You can muscle them into place with guide pins as suggested. I put wheel weights on my FIL's H and I dropped the left weight on my right hand and the right weight on my left hand. Just clumsy I guess. Had the wheels off the ground so they could turn a little to help line up the bolt hoes instead of me muscling them into position. Be careful and good luck, Allan.

Nebraska Cowman · Jan 11, 2012

Use your head Larry, not your back. If you get the weight over the axle you could use one long bolt to catch one side. Then all you have to lift is half of it to line up the other side.

Wayne in MN · Jan 11, 2012

When I was MUCH younger I put a double set of weights back on my H after painting it. Not any more!!
Make sure you line up the opening with the wheel hub clamp bolts so you can adjust the wheel spacing in the future.

Larry Hardesty · Jan 11, 2012

Howard, I guess I should have priced them installed<smile>. I had a couple of young fellows help me get them out of your pickup and onto my trailer. They looked smaller than I remembered, and I asked one of them what he thought they weighted. He thought maybe 70-80 pounds. Nope, when I got them home, I tried to wrestled them off the trailer and they seem more like the 140-145 the book says. Being 64 and with one bum arm (temporarily I hope), no way I could use main strength and brute force to get them on. I do have a cherry picker (which helped get them off the trailer). I appreciate all the advice you and other folks gave. I think when the time comes (still want to paint them up) I think I will get some help. Thanks much. Larry

Larry Hardesty · Jan 11, 2012

Well, I fell just off the front steps last summer and broke my wrist and still not up to 100 percent. I would never hear the end of it from my wife if I did something putting weights on the tractor. She got pretty tired of driving me around while my arm was in a cast...all our vehicles are stick shift! Yep, do not want to the arm again or the other arm...or a leg, etc.

Thanks

Harold Hubbard · Jan 11, 2012

Call Rent-a-Gorilla, or Gorillas-are-US.

I have very carefully stood them up and caught a Hi-lift jack in the center hole, raised the jack and tipped it until the weight hung on the axle. After that it was just a matter of wiggling it around until I could catch one bolt, then turning the wheel until the other holes lined up.

If you are lucky enough to have forks available, they fit right into the notches on the outside edge of the weight.

Larry Hardesty · Jan 11, 2012

I have muscled the two piece weights on but the one piece are a bit much. Not was young as a once was...but as the song goes...I can do once what I . . . (well, maybe not when it comes to lifting 140 plus pounds. Thanks

Jim Becker · Jan 11, 2012

I've done enough damage to myself lifting things that are too heavy. I now try to avoid it. I made a small hook out of rebar so I can use a chain hoist. My hook is small and the tire/rim would be in the way (especially if turned out like yours were the last I knew). George Willer made a larger fixture for mounting them, as can be seen here.
http://www.gwill.net/Album/Tractors/Farmall/Cubs/57_Scotty/weight2.jpg
You could probably make one out of a piece of rebar that would reach around the rim and still not bend under a 150# load.

In any case, use a hoist, cherry picker or even a front end loader to do the lifting.

Larry Hardesty · Jan 11, 2012

Jim, Thanks, you got me thinking. I do have some heavy 3 feet or so rod I can run through the bolt hole and lift with my cherry picker. I am still thinking (for safety) it is more than a one person job. I don"t know if there is a right way or a wrong way for the wheels to be as far as turned in or out. Is there? The weights are for the Super C that has the front blade on it.

Larry

Wardner · Jan 11, 2012

Jim Becker,

I looked at the URL in your post and it occurred to me that George Willer and George Will might be the same person.

Nah, that's too absurd. LOL.

kennell · Jan 11, 2012

Larry: I think you'd better send those weights up to me, so you don't hurt anything. LOL
I run a 2x6 or 2x8 through the slot in the hub and put a car jack under both ends of the stick. I then set the weight on the stick and jack it up to the right height. This works good for multi weights which is what i mostly play with. Good luck. Kent

Jim Becker · Jan 11, 2012

There is no right or wrong way for the wheels to be turned. Turning them in or out adds a little more adjustment range than is available with just the axle. Of course, the tires need to face the right way.

Dean Olson · Jan 11, 2012

I put a continous threaded rod through the wheel,with wheel at the 12 o'clock postion, with nuts on both sides. Lift the weights with an engine hoist and put your bolts in accordingly. Remove the rod if your using the OEM bolts. In my case I use the all thread on all 4 holes.

Nebraska Cowman · Jan 11, 2012

There was a day Larry that I could take one in each hand and walk off. But no more. I don't do hard work anymore.

CoopertownBob · Jan 11, 2012

I'm old (sort of, 48 ), fat and out of shape, (unless you consider round as being in "shape" LOL) and I just muscle them up and install them like some others here have said, using the bolts as guide pins of sorts. One thing I do that may help you though is many times if I am tired or have been sick and thus feeling weak, I install two longer then needed bolts kept for the purpose in two opposite bolt holes, then once I get the weights onto them, I install my bolts and then remove the longer ones unless I am installing more than one set. I do it in three steps. First, I hang the weight on the axle end, then I turn the weight to align it properly with the wheel, and finally I pick up one side only so I can hang it on one of the bolts, then the other side comes next and it is finished. I am also not opposed to rolling the tractor a little bit to help align things in a more advantageous position.

mazemeister · Jan 11, 2012

forklift.

rhtx55 · Jan 11, 2012

It's real easy, grab a nephew, grandson or two,
back the trailer up to the rear of the tractor,
call them over and tell them " See that round thing, it goes right there" point to the wheel...
" oh yeah, here's the bolts "
SNAP..you are done !!

pete 23 · Jan 11, 2012

I can't even lift one anymore, but put many on by my self. You see the farmers would usually put them on the wrong way so you could not get the bolts out to replace the broken ones. Or, when they traded tractors I got to change the wights. Easiest way, have one bolt hole at 12 o'clock, put a long rod through the weight and just lift it up, put rod through that hole and slide weight in. Of course , any kind of a hoist to lift the weight and then the long rod, zip.

wolfman · Jan 11, 2012

When younger, I'd smack the weight up in place with my left hand and use the right hand to start the bolts. Add 20 years, I'd have a bolt in place at 12 o'clock position, lift the weight with both hands, kind of let it hang on that bolt, use a 2 by 4 to center the weight as I finished bolts. 20 more years, two 2X4s scabbed together, place weight on that, pry up using the wood. Now, floor jack, long rod as lever & make sure tire valve is UP out of danger!

Rick Remmert · Jan 12, 2012

I am using my C to tractor pull. I have the factory rear weights on and off all the time. I will give this a shot without boring everyone. Park the tractor so that two of the holes in the center section are on the horizontal. I then hang the weight on the axle that has a piece of PVC pipe slid over it. The center hole in the weights are oblong. The long side of the hole has a "v" relief cast in it. Let that sit on the axle. You now should be able to put the front or back bolt in by sliding the weight back and forth on the axle. Once you get it thru, snug it up. Then rotate the wheel so the bolt is in the 12:00 postion. You should be able to get the bottom bolt in now. I only run two bolts because I am not going that far. I am also doing this with 2 weighs on each side and I put them both on at the same time. Mine weight between 143 to 148 pounds apiece. I have it down to were I put the 4 weighs on in under 10 minutes and the only lifting I do is from my weight cart and hang it on the axle.

Tom Fleming · Jan 13, 2012

Well, cherry picker is what I use, and believe it or not, I take the whole wheel off, center and all and lay it down flat on the ground. Bolt up the weight(s), and put it back on. Amazing how easy it is to roll the weight over to a wheel that is lying flat on the ground, then just flip it up onto the wheel center. Put your bolts in, and then use the cherry picker to stand the wheel back up and install.

A little more effort, but since I have the hub bolts/wedges freed up, really not all that bad or much more. This is the result of a bad disk in my lower back. My human forklift days are over, and with a cup of coffee, cherry picker, and patience, I have removed and installed engines, wheels, etc. solo.......

Cherry picker is one of the best investments I have made in the last 2 years.....ever since my back reminded me how old I am!

Bill Krosnicki · Jan 13, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:29:57 01/11/12) I just got a pair of rear weights (one piece) for my Super C. Any tips on installing them? I think the manual say 140-145 pounds so they are not light, and I want to be careful.

Bookman

How about using a ratcheting tie-down strap? Loop it around the top of the tire and thru the center of the weight, put the hooks together then lift away.

Larry Hardesty · Jan 13, 2012

Sounds like a plan

Thanks

Larry

Larry Hardesty · Jan 13, 2012

Rick, Thanks much.

Larry

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