Tom Fleming
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Well, kicking this around and thought you guys might enjoy the pics. I am considering buying this to haul the tractors to shows locally (100 miles or less). Yes, made by IHC.
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Allan in NE
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Oh yeah! Good ol' K5. :>)
Top speed of 45, but I want it!!!!
Allan
Top speed of 45, but I want it!!!!
Allan
James Williams
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Tom,I had a 55,good solid truck,ran perfect but had no power,they worked back and thell work now
jimmy
jimmy
Tom Fleming
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Thanks guys. It is a 1949 KB-5, 2 speed rear axle, and looks to me to be nearly complete and original. I know top end on this will be around 40-45 MPH, but what the heck. I think it will be the cat's meow to haul my F-Series to shows on this. My only reservation on this is that it is 1400 miles away, and I need to get transport locked down and get the seller to work with me on timing. Price is good, and even the transport price is good. I just need a few weeks to recover from Xmas to fund all of it.
Not sure yet which way this deal will go, but I am hoping............
Not sure yet which way this deal will go, but I am hoping............
I know a guy who has one - restored perfectly (red of course) - uses it to take his tractor to shows.
Love that truck.
Of course, be ready to pour a lot of gas into it, and don't expect to get anywhere quickly, and wear a helmet on bumpy roads : )
But that's the price you pay for having what I think is one of the coolest looking trucks every made.
Would you restore it, or leave it as is? I love his all shiny and red and perfect in every way - but I'm kinda liking the condition of the one in the pictures. Has that original look without being too far gone.
In fact...
... if you DON'T buy it...
... my wife would KILL me, but...
Love that truck.
Of course, be ready to pour a lot of gas into it, and don't expect to get anywhere quickly, and wear a helmet on bumpy roads : )
But that's the price you pay for having what I think is one of the coolest looking trucks every made.
Would you restore it, or leave it as is? I love his all shiny and red and perfect in every way - but I'm kinda liking the condition of the one in the pictures. Has that original look without being too far gone.
In fact...
... if you DON'T buy it...
... my wife would KILL me, but...
Nebraska Cowman
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Oh yeah! that would be cool for short hauls. It
would be even more cool to take coast to coast!
would be even more cool to take coast to coast!
That is just what I have been looking for to haul my tractors. I would buy it. I don't think I could restore that one. Redo the seat so you don't get springs in your but and call it good. Must be out west because everything here in WI would have holes around the headlights and cab corners.
Tom Fleming
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Well, the truck is rated at 1.5 tons, however, from what I have been able to find and hear from the guys on OldIHC is that these will haul up to 4 or 5 tons from a frame and spring capacity. Engine and brakes are the limiting factor.
I will license it as a 5 ton, so no issues there.
My plan is to keep this original if I buy it. Will clean it up, but leave it pretty much "as is". I will update the brakes and replace the wood on the flatbed, and of course fix the front seat. Other than that, what you see is how I will l
Leave it.
Haf the reason I am considering it is because it is original and in great shape. Kinda like leaving a decent tractor in its work clothes.........
I will license it as a 5 ton, so no issues there.
My plan is to keep this original if I buy it. Will clean it up, but leave it pretty much "as is". I will update the brakes and replace the wood on the flatbed, and of course fix the front seat. Other than that, what you see is how I will l
Leave it.
Haf the reason I am considering it is because it is original and in great shape. Kinda like leaving a decent tractor in its work clothes.........
The KB-5 was the same size as the Ford F-5, which later became the F-500. In the late 1940s and early 1950s, my dad had an F-5 for his milk hauler (10 gal. cans in those days). Neighbor used an F-5 for hauling hogs to market 45 miles away. In the late '50s I worked at a lumber yard/grain elevator and we used a KB-5 for all kinds of deliveries. I think the 2 speed axle used a vacuum system for shifting in those days, but not sure. Windshield wipers often were vacuum, when you floored it the wipers stopped!
I was young then and I drove that KB-5 hard and it never gave us a bit of trouble; built like a tank.
LA in WI
I was young then and I drove that KB-5 hard and it never gave us a bit of trouble; built like a tank.
LA in WI
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I bought my KB-5 in 1960. It was my first vehicle at sixteen. My mother loved it because she knew I would not kill myself while driving it.
Remember taking a date to a dance in the old truck. I didn't have the heart to tell her there was a grease stain on the back of her yellow dress. I could have sworn that her portion of the seat was clean.
I made alot of changes to it. Put in a small block Chevy after throwing a rod in the Green Diamond engine. It was OK but replaced it with a 4-53 Detroit. Much better. Found a two speed out of a Loadstar and got better top speed.
I used it for 12 years in my sandblasting business. It always weighed at 18,000 lbs when leaving for a job. I replaced it with a new 1980 S-1954 w/DT 466 and tandem axles. That truck would weigh in a 49,000 when pulling out from underneath my silos.
Still have the KB. Been thinking of putting on a hook lift or roll-back for hauling tractors. I wonder if my 660 at 12,000 lbs would crush it. The coffin lift was used for hauling big loads of granite.
I bought my KB-5 in 1960. It was my first vehicle at sixteen. My mother loved it because she knew I would not kill myself while driving it.
Remember taking a date to a dance in the old truck. I didn't have the heart to tell her there was a grease stain on the back of her yellow dress. I could have sworn that her portion of the seat was clean.
I made alot of changes to it. Put in a small block Chevy after throwing a rod in the Green Diamond engine. It was OK but replaced it with a 4-53 Detroit. Much better. Found a two speed out of a Loadstar and got better top speed.
I used it for 12 years in my sandblasting business. It always weighed at 18,000 lbs when leaving for a job. I replaced it with a new 1980 S-1954 w/DT 466 and tandem axles. That truck would weigh in a 49,000 when pulling out from underneath my silos.
Still have the KB. Been thinking of putting on a hook lift or roll-back for hauling tractors. I wonder if my 660 at 12,000 lbs would crush it. The coffin lift was used for hauling big loads of granite.
big_red_man
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Tom, you're a super contributor and collector and I wish you well on this -- I think you'll love it if you get it. My cousin was a puller (IHC, of course). To haul his pulling tractor, he used a Ford truck, but replaced the engine with an IHC diesel tractor engine, same engine as in his puller, but not "souped up". (It didn't need to be.) He always said that IHC trator engine was the best one ever built. Good luck! Of course you could also pull a trailer behind if needed to haul more than one. : )
Oh, BTW, you will love the sound of those straight cut gears. Not so much with noise from the single electric windshield wiper motor. You will need to beef up your bi-cepts when steering at slow speed. And brush up on your double-clutching skills.
Anyway, buy it. Why not drive it home after checking out things like brakes? They actually work quite well even without the optional booster.
Anyway, buy it. Why not drive it home after checking out things like brakes? They actually work quite well even without the optional booster.
The Dukester
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I remember when those KB-5"s were new, they were one of the best looking trucks at that time...and still would be restored and painted a nice loud color...like bright red. I don"t understand the top speed being only 40-45. My dad used to drive a new "47 Federal 2 ton with a 14 foot grain box (Titsworth body built...remember it well wiht that name) for the local feed mill and it would go 50 or a little better with 4 tons of fertilizer on it...right down US-127 from Lansing to Jackson. All the Federal had was s Hercules flathead....about like the one in the KB-5.
I think you should definately get it. I am one for leaving things original in work clothes. Only thing i would do would be whaat you mentioned about updating and redoing the brake system.
heres one of my old IHC haulers. 1955 R202 with a RD450, 7 speed with 3 speed brownie and full air brakes. Came out of California with about 28K on it. documented miles form original owners family. snagged it off ebay for 100 bux :shock: 8)
heres one of my old IHC haulers. 1955 R202 with a RD450, 7 speed with 3 speed brownie and full air brakes. Came out of California with about 28K on it. documented miles form original owners family. snagged it off ebay for 100 bux :shock: 8)
white halftrack
Member
My family owns a KB2 that was used at our grandfathers grocery
store. It was restored and is kept as a family treasure. We do
however have an extra green diamond engine sitting in the shop
that my father keeps threatening to take to the scrappers. If you
need anything from it, send me an email.
Jason
store. It was restored and is kept as a family treasure. We do
however have an extra green diamond engine sitting in the shop
that my father keeps threatening to take to the scrappers. If you
need anything from it, send me an email.
Jason
Tom Fleming
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Old-F20, great looking family and truck!
Jason, where are you located? Who knows, I might be interested in a few parts or maybe the whole thing.......
Jason, where are you located? Who knows, I might be interested in a few parts or maybe the whole thing.......
to_many_irons
Member
neat old trucks i like it a lot !
got to get at my old truck , but need the TD9 first .
to many projects to little time .
got to get at my old truck , but need the TD9 first .
to many projects to little time .
believe it or not, i simply typed 'international truck' and found it when i was scrolling through. had an opening bid of 99 cents on a 9 day auction. i bid 150 on it with about 6 days left. reserve was set at 100 and no body else bid on it. it didnt have a title and i think that scared people away from it, but ive went through the DOT here and got 'bonded' titles before with no issues.
my wife was pretty pi**ed off when i won the auction since it was in LA and thats a good drive out there from here. Got lucky and a friend of mine hauled it home for 500. Once it was here and i starting driving it around it grew on her and now she wont let me get rid of it :lol:
Tom Fleming
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Well, I just sent the seller an email saying I would buy it, as I pulled the $$$ together for the asking price. Now waiting to hear back. my only request of him was to ship towards the end of Feb so I can pull together the money for the shipping.
Will see what he says.
Will see what he says.
Tom Fleming
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Old-F20, looks like the pup likes the truck as much or more than the wife does! :wink:
Tom Fleming
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Well, I own it pending the seller's receipt of my payment, which is going in the mail today.
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Tom Fleming
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Namesake, it is in South Dakota, Rapid City. He was fine shipping at the end of Feb. Appreciate the offer though. If I remember correctly, SD is tad out of the way from your place....... :wink:
Hill-Billy Rock-Star
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My buddy has a truck just like that even looks to be the same color. Ive been trying to buy it off him for years and all it's doing is rusting away in the woods. He keeps telling me Im going to fix it up been 10 years now. Was solid when he got it now its all rotted out.
I am a little late reading this, but dad had one just like it when I was growing up. You are right on 45 mph. That was just about right. Neighbor always said they were good truck, but when you hit the bottom of the hill you didn't want to be a sleep with you thumb in your a$$ or you would make it over the next.
Tom Fleming
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Keep the posts and stories coming this is great chatter. Always cool to hear the real life stories on these old tractor's and trucks.
I have estimated from the pictures, that I have the 177" wheel base model, with the GD-233 engine. I have estimated the flatbed to be 192" x 96" (did that by counting posts on the sides assuming they are 24" apart). Here is some info, directly from IHC thanks to the Wisconsin Historical Archives that I believe apply to this truck.
GVW: 13,500 - 17,500 depending upon options/conditions
Chasis weight: 3,865
Engine: 23.6 HP AMA and 93 BHP at 3400 RPM's
Paint color: Frame and wheels - Black, Cab, fenders, hood - IHC No. 10 Dark Green
Options: 2 speed rear axle, dual rear wheels
Here is the link to the full spec sheet:
http://content.wisconsinhistory.org...mp;CISOPTR=36871&CISOSHOW=36861&REC=4
I have estimated from the pictures, that I have the 177" wheel base model, with the GD-233 engine. I have estimated the flatbed to be 192" x 96" (did that by counting posts on the sides assuming they are 24" apart). Here is some info, directly from IHC thanks to the Wisconsin Historical Archives that I believe apply to this truck.
GVW: 13,500 - 17,500 depending upon options/conditions
Chasis weight: 3,865
Engine: 23.6 HP AMA and 93 BHP at 3400 RPM's
Paint color: Frame and wheels - Black, Cab, fenders, hood - IHC No. 10 Dark Green
Options: 2 speed rear axle, dual rear wheels
Here is the link to the full spec sheet:
http://content.wisconsinhistory.org...mp;CISOPTR=36871&CISOSHOW=36861&REC=4
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