farmall H 9 spd which brand is it?

Farmall H with 9 spd. lever that comes out of trans housing comes out of left side of tractor and lever you shift with is between clutch and shifter?? Or is it not a 9 spd? It is suppose to be a 1949.

Heisler manufacturing co. 9 speed. Xmas present?

As Slater says it is a Heisler 9 speed and they are very difficult to find on a H. They are quite common on M's which was the main tillage tractor of the era. I looked for around 5 years for a nice H with one after liking my M with one so well. A great find and you will certainly enjoy those speed ranges with the torque it provides. Merry Christmas and it appears Santa brought you something which wasn't even on your wish list, Hal.

Thanks for the help. Is heisler better than m&w? and what other brands made 9 spds?? Does this just give a better road gear or just better in between gears? Are heislers built tough? I bought the tractor with a tight motor dont know what to do with this. He said it was a 1949 serial tag has a X1 on it that means gas head or what?? Does the heisler mean its rare or worth alot more? Or should i just sell rear end and trans how much is it worth? Thanks MERRY CHRISTMAS

(quoted from post at 17:13:02 12/25/11) Thanks for the help. Is heisler better than m&w? and what other brands made 9 spds?? Does this just give a better road gear or just better in between gears? Are heislers built tough? I bought the tractor with a tight motor dont know what to do with this. He said it was a 1949 serial tag has a X1 on it that means gas head or what?? Does the heisler mean its rare or worth alot more? Or should i just sell rear end and trans how much is it worth? Thanks MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Heisler and M&W are the 2 common ones that I am aware of. I believe the Heisler may be lever operated and the M&W might be cable operated although I may not remember correctly. Cables can be a source of problems due to rust if left oustide but are rather easily replaced by sustituting heavy truck cables like for a 2 speed axle since original cables will no longer be available. I myself would prefer the lever for simplicity and reliability.

As another poster pointed out the Hesiler and M&W were very common aftermarket additons to M's but not so much the H's so they are somewhat rare on an H. It does add a few hundred to the value of an h, but you still have an h which are very limited in value since 400,000 or so h's were built. Only H's with substantial value are 1954 Stage Two Super H's. Stage One Super H's have decent value. A plain H not real valuable to collectors but are still handy and useable on the farm.

The 9 speed overdrives do add several useable speeds. The 4th to 5th gear jump is a huge jump on a standard h or m (like 5.3 mph to 16.5 mph). The 9 speed gives you several speeds inbetween this range but it also overspeeds the PTO shaft so you are still limited to regular direct gears when using the PTO. Still the overdrive is very useful on drawbar loads. Road gear is still the same as it is locked out on purpose as 16.5 mph is plenty fast on an old h or m. If road gear was not locked out then these would be called 10 speeds instead of 9 speeds.

The X1 suffix means gas only and does have a higher compression ratio than the distillate models and much more than the lowly Kerosene models. In short the X1 will have more hp than a distillate model or a Kersene model (assuming still stock parts of course). If it has been overhauled in its lifetime it likely has Super H pistons installed.

I myself would try to fix and use. You might luck out and free up the stuck engine without disassembly. Regardless Farmall h parts are common and reasonably cheap due to being so common. I just purchased a 1951 H this summer. I must admit that it is one fun tractor to drive and I do enjoy driving it - hope to put a budget paint job on it this summer.

If you do decide to part yours out then I might be interested in the 9 speed over-drive unit.

I am certainly not an expert on these 9 speeds made by Heisler and M&W but from what I have seen the Heisler is something that from outward appearances appears to be something engineered to the tractor and model. I have seen many notations on the M&W ones with a note "cable is broken". The Heisler as you can see from your tractor is made from cast and machined components with a metal rod for linkage. Most of the M&W ones use a cable like a choke or throttle cable on a small lawnmower which enters the transmission between two castings by a gasket. I have read there are some M&W ones which use linkage somewhat like the Heisler but have never seen one.
I was told by the original owner of the M I bought in Iowa that the main reason they were used was due to the speed needed for a rotary hoe which was around 7 MPH and none of the gears on the factory M's and H's would pull one at that speed. My uncle who farmed corn in Iowa had one on a M and he used it to pull full wagon loads of picked corn to the storage areas on the county roads using the hi-range 4th which ran around 12 MPH with a lot of torque.
Hope this helps and enjoy your H tractor as few will be seen with a Heisler 9 speed, Hal.

After looking at your post relative to a "better road gear" 5th or the road gear on your H is not affected or enhanced with additional speed. Only gears 1, 2, 3, and 4 will be increased which will put them all in a speed range between the original 4th and 5th on your tractor.
Also, you should be aware that having the Heisler engaged in high range also affects your PTO and hydraulic belly pump if you have those features by speeding them up. Both my M and H have a hydraulic pump disconnect which needs to be activated so as not to over-speed the belly pump when using the high range gears.

Is a picture worth a thousand words?

M&W with a lever comes out the right wall of the transmission. Also the shift lever will have M&W gear company Anchor Illinois on it. Best one would be the one in the best shape now.

How much is the 9 spd hiesler rear end worth with hubs and seat? Get back to me if you are interested

how much would you pay for the rear end with hubs?

(quoted from post at 03:41:15 12/27/11) how much would you pay for the rear end with hubs?

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My interest would only be a possibility if you happen to be reasonably close to SW Ohio as shipping would otherwise be prohibitively expensive. I would prefer that you price your item verses me making an offer.

I have no interest in put together tractors from parts of many. All of my tractors came from the original owners or family members and are as delivered or with dealer modifications. If you are trying to sell the Heisler aspect of your tractor it is probably worth something around $500 or so. You would be a lot better off fixing the original engine if possible or replacing it with another correct block close to the existing engine serial number which would not be that difficult to locate due to the number of H's built. Then you would have something unique and more desirable then a plain H. Best of luck in whatever you decide but you presently have something that is very rare at the moment, Hal.

I live in wisconsin central part.Are you intereted in whole tractor? Tires are all bad, rear rims are bad, missing starter but other wise looks complete. OR just transmission. 750 whole or transmission 425.00

I live in wisconsin central part.Are you intereted in whole tractor? Tires are all bad, rear rims are bad, missing starter but other wise looks complete. OR just transmission. 750 whole or transmission 425.00