1944 H, factory error????

JDnTN · Dec 12, 2011

Was changing a rear tire on an H and noticed that the lugs on the wheel are mounted on the outside instead of the inside making it a pain to remove the rim/tire. You have to rotate the wheel through the rim. Was there a reason for this placement, just wondering? Next time I have the rim off, I will reverse them. Thanks, Jon

rustyfarmall · Dec 12, 2011

(quoted from post at 13:25:45 12/12/11) Was changing a rear tire on an H and noticed that the lugs on the wheel are mounted on the outside instead of the inside making it a pain to remove the rim/tire. You have to rotate the wheel through the rim. Was there a reason for this placement, just wondering? Next time I have the rim off, I will reverse them. Thanks, Jon

The Hs and Ms were shipped from the factory with the cast wheels "dished in" to make the tractor as narrow as possible in order to fit more of them on the rail car. The dealer then simply swapped the wheel/tire assembly from one side of the tractor to the other, to achieve the "dished out" stance, which was required for MOST rowcrop operations. Simply swapping the wheels from one side to the other DID leave the non-removable lugs on the outside, and the removable lugs on the inside, which makes removing the rim/tire assembly nearly impossible. The answer is to get busy and completely remove all the lugs, bolts, and nuts, and then reassemble it the way YOU want it.

Paul from MI · Dec 12, 2011

My 1942 H has the clamps assembled the same way for whatever reason. It actually makes the width when the wheels are all the way in about 1-1/2" narrower, which is just enough to fit on my trailer, I'm not changing anything as I only have about 3/4" on each side as it is.

Paul from MI · Dec 12, 2011

My 1942 H has the clamps assembled the same way for whatever reason. It actually makes the width when the wheels are all the way in about 1-1/2" narrower, which is just enough to fit on my trailer, I'm not changing anything as I only have about 3/4" on each side as it is.

John M · Dec 13, 2011

They do come off!

The Dukester · Dec 13, 2011

I've seen many, many brand new H's and M's just as they came on the shipping flat car with the rear wheels "dished in" and the tire tread running backwards. The receiving dealer always just turned the entire wheel assembly around on each side, one at a time, and put on the usually supplied one set of wheel weights..(and sometimes on the later models, the Michigan state regulation required fenders with the later supplied extensions) before delivering the tractor to it's new owner. Once in a blue moon a buyer would want the wheels left dished in, more often on M's than H's, for whatever reason, to keep the tractor narrower I'd guess. In this event when just the tire and rim was turned around to put the tire tread running in the right direction, the dealer would remove the entire rim lug assembly and turn it around so the removeable lug was still on the outside. It's not too bad job if you've got an impact wrench. The cast center was usually slid out at least halfway toward the axle end too, otherwise the rear tread was too narrow to be used.

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