Tracking down an F12

Having found the handwritten charts of fuel and oil consumption for our farm's first tractor (an F12) I thought about what might have happened to it.
I know it was sold or traded on 12 February 1941. However, in the accounts ledger for 1934:
7 Sept. "Implements Account to International Harvester Company £195"
5 Oct. "to D. Harvery payment for plough £44/9/8."
and in the 1934 Diary:
Friday 7th September 1934 "Tractor arrived per L. Whatley. Baglin advises that MacGregor will appear tomorrow to set up and start." Saturday 8th September 1934 "…MacGregor setting up tractor… Tested out tractor with disc and peg tooth harrows - also tested on steep slopes. Very satisfactory." Monday 10th September 1934 "Bought 3 furrow Mulboard Stump Jump Tractor Plough from Harvey, Box Hill for £45 less 2% = £43/17/6."
Is there any chance of finding any records of the tractor today?
SadFarmall

your only possibility is to check out the vital records (death, birth) and see if you can find the family of the names listed. They may or may not have information.

I have been looking for my dad's Super M, and what really makes it hard is that I don't have the serial number. I know who he sold it to, and that guy sold it at auction when he retired. The auction company is still in business, and I haven't called them yet, but I am hoping they have records back that far. If they can tell me the name of the person who bought it, I am on to the next leg of the search.

I also have contacted the family of the dealership who sold dad the tractor new. They told me that they still have alot of the old company records in storage, and that if they got the time, they would look for me. That was 2 years ago, and I am not holding out much hope that they will ever do it. I guess I should ask them if they would mind if I were to look through the records. Probably won't let me, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. The sales sheets usually had the serial number on them.

I wish you luck in your search.

Tom, Looking through old records is very timly most people want $$$ for there time and even than need to be pushed to get it done! oldiron29

Slim to none unless those names mean something to
you. The biggest problem is those men are dead.
There may be records saved if you knew where to
look. Where the F12 was traded or sold in 1941 would
be the place to start. On 2nd thought, You are in UK
correct? And you have government registration for
each tractor? Those records should be searchable.

If you can track down some of those family members, you might be able to find at least one with some info. I know where one of the tractors I own came from (the original owner and dealership it came from), and know at least one family member, and he is one of the owners of a business locally I sometimes frequent. I plan on making mention if he recalls the tractor, and let him know I own it. I won't sell at this point, however there may come a day that I might decide to, and would give them first shot at it.

With all of that meticulous paperwork, is the
serial number written down anywhere? I'm guessing
that since you don't know where it is, you also
don't know if it's in a salvage yard, somebody's
flower bed, or if it exists at all. With the S/N, we
could ALL pitch in and help find it. Fritz

Sadfarmall, I enjoy seeing you posts.

I have the first original farmall f12 that was my grandfathers. It was bought in 1935, came with a lil genious single bottom plow. They were both red. For those of you who say there was no red farmalls til nov 1936, well this one was bought 1935 and was red. No gray, even under the red paint.

This 1935 model farmed 82 acres along with a team of morgan horses; through sandy soil and sampy muck. Using a horse drawn scoop, the tractor dug the basement of grandmas and grandpas house; the house I now live in. It was used to move brooder houses as the farm raised 1200 phesants, 500 turkey, and 500 chickens. It was replaced by a used 1958 cub lo boy in 1966. From then on the F12 was used to run a manure spreader, unfortuneatly it would require pull start to get it running. In 1983, while I was in 9th grade, I began restoring it. Stiil today it is the most dependable tractor of the 30 I have. I use it in the wihter time to run a buzz saw and to drag firewood when it"s too icy to have the draft horse in harness.

Good luck finding it. I really hope you do.

Thanks for all the replies! The trouble with finding the serial number is that I know my grandfather did write it down… the same as he did with all the other machines and tractors he owned, in the Owner's Manual, which undoubtedly was sold with the tractor. The only mentions I have for the sale or trade of the F12 are both in the tractor log books my grandfather kept. The Farmall F12 ends on 12 February 1941 and the new Farmall H records state for 1941 "5 months only". (The financial year here starts on 1st July and ends on 30th June). Also on 12 February 1941 is written in red ink 'Here endeth F12'. I will keep looking for it; it may have survived.
SadFarmall

(quoted from post at 04:16:13 12/11/11) Having found the handwritten charts of fuel and oil consumption for our farm's first tractor (an F12) I thought about what might have happened to it.
I know it was sold or traded on 12 February 1941. However, in the accounts ledger for 1934:
7 Sept. "Implements Account to International Harvester Company £195"
5 Oct. "to D. Harvery payment for plough £44/9/8."
and in the 1934 Diary:
Friday 7th September 1934 "Tractor arrived per L. Whatley. Baglin advises that MacGregor will appear tomorrow to set up and start." Saturday 8th September 1934 "…MacGregor setting up tractor… Tested out tractor with disc and peg tooth harrows - also tested on steep slopes. Very satisfactory." Monday 10th September 1934 "Bought 3 furrow Mulboard Stump Jump Tractor Plough from Harvey, Box Hill for £45 less 2% = £43/17/6."
Is there any chance of finding any records of the tractor today?
SadFarmall

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Interesting there is some stuff on Harvey,

Daniel Harvey

Historical information is hard to find relating to Daniel Harvey.
Briefly:

Started business in 1910 as an agricultural implement foundry.

Made all sorts of cultivating implements.

Taken over by Horwood Bagshaw in 1963

I have found d Harvey listed in S & M Directories up to 1946.

History note provided by Elaine Heeney nee Harvey (grand daughter of Daniel Harvey)

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I bet the people from this site would be very interested in anything you have got from Harvey Box Hill
http://www.ozwrenches.com/harvey.htm

Also check out the photos here!
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/themes/3157/daniel-harvey-collection

I also believe this is your Mr Baglin though the only information in him comes from 1940 onwards in the HV Mckay collection..

http://museumvictoria.museum/collections/items/735093/photograph-h-v-mckay-massey-harris-personnel-staff-portraits-may-1940?startType=ItemSimilar&start=19

Now that was a good find! Good to put a face to the name. Of course, I am going to have to try to find a 1934 F12 now, even if I never find the original from the farm. The search goes on…
SadFarmall