hubs on an H

tntleake · Nov 29, 2011

I bought this H from an estate and also a bunch of parts. I got a set of home made rims I'm debating on putting on it. looking for some input as of yes or no. A fiend will give me a set of 12.4 x38 tires that are like new in exchange for the stock rims and hubs with worn out tires.
Your thoughts on how it would look

CNKS · Nov 29, 2011

Whatever you want. I have never liked the appearance of cutoffs.

DeltaRed · Nov 29, 2011

Cuttoffs are kinda rare any more.Would be fun to take to a show-something different.I say go for it!

diesel cowboy · Nov 29, 2011

Cut offs are a part of history. Thats all a farmer would have been able to afford. Not too many tractors with those anymore....

Maxx · Nov 29, 2011

Edit: If your planning on working the tractor remember those rims are light.

Back during the war, rubber was hard to get so a lot of H's came on steel.
Later the rims were converted to rubber.

tntleake · Nov 29, 2011

I guess the biggest factor is I end up with a new set of 12.4x38 in the trade I just got to pay the tireman for the mounts and tubes.

tntleake · Nov 29, 2011

Wow, ask and yea shall recieve. That appears to be an H they are on? Do you have a photo of the whole tractor showing the cutoffs in the big picture
Thanks Tracy

Maxx · Nov 29, 2011

It is an H.
Sorry, I can't find the other pics of it right now.

Maxx

tntleake · Nov 29, 2011

Thanks MAXX

CNKS · Nov 29, 2011

More times than not a rubber tires were not available due to WW II. Standard equipment on the original H and M was rubber, steel was an option, cheaper or not I don't know. When rubber became available again many farmers bought the rubber and used their existing wheels with rims attached. My Dad did that. Yes, new wheels to put rubber on would have been cost prohibitive, although if I remember correctly, WW II was one of the more productive periods in terms of income. My dad had narrow steel wheels, also, for the 1939? H and his 1947 H for cultivating vegetables. If such wheels are rare it's because the H and M were mostly sold with steel wheels between 1941 and 1946. A's and B's did not have steel as an option, probably one reason production of them was lower during WW II. I was too young to remember when my dad had the original steel converted to cutoffs. Having driven the 47 H with both steel and rubber, I simply don't like anything that resembles steel, thus my dislike of cutoffs -- only my opinion. Looks like I was around when history was made--

Paul from MI · Nov 29, 2011

All depends on what you like, it's your tractor. I you go with the cut-offs on the rear, the correct fronts would also be cut-offs, which you don't have. There were two H's in my family of uncles, cousins, etc., a 1945 on cut-offs & a 1942 on rubber. I kind of like the looks of the cut-offs myself and given the cost of tires I'd make the trade.

mike1972chev · Nov 30, 2011

I think it makes them look to much like an "F" series tractor myself.They look like a "half breed".

Tom Fleming · Nov 30, 2011

Well, IMHO, 12.4's will be a bit "large" looking on an H. M would look fine, but on an H, that's alot of tire.

Also, new 11.6's are around $450 - $500 a piece.

Can't really tell, but those tires don't look so bad to me.

The cut off's are fine. Really up to your tastes. What is truly hard to find are full steel's for the M or H. Most were scrapped or turned into cut-offs. I actually like the look of full steel on any tractor, just makes it a big PITA to deal with at shows. Parades are just out of the question, unless you put road rings on them.

You have a real nice looking H there. Not sure I would do anything to it......but that is just me.

rustyfarmall · Nov 30, 2011

(quoted from post at 04:58:12 11/30/11) Well, IMHO, 12.4's will be a bit "large" looking on an H. M would look fine, but on an H, that's alot of tire.

Also, new 11.6's are around $450 - $500 a piece.

Can't really tell, but those tires don't look so bad to me.

The cut off's are fine. Really up to your tastes. What is truly hard to find are full steel's for the M or H. Most were scrapped or turned into cut-offs. I actually like the look of full steel on any tractor, just makes it a big PITA to deal with at shows. Parades are just out of the question, unless you put road rings on them.

You have a real nice looking H there. Not sure I would do anything to it......but that is just me.

12.4s are the correct size for an H. That is the size that is on all of my Hs as well as every other H Farmall in this area.

Tom Fleming · Nov 30, 2011

Rusty, I won't dispute that. I have 11.6 on my H, and 9.5x36 on my F-12. Personally, I prefer the smaller profile on the tractors. If I were working these daily, I would have a different view.

I said, "in my humble opinion". I outfit a show tractor differently than a worker.... :wink:

D Slater · Nov 30, 2011

Depends what you intend to use the tractor for.
Wheel weights for a H cast wheel won't bolt up to the cutoffs without work and they will be lighter than the cast wheels to start with.
If its a show tractor cutoffs would be a little lighter to haul and some may like the look.
Don't know about the area you are located but I could probably find a junk H tractor for $200 to $300 and trade the wheels and rims off it for the good tires and keep both types of wheels. Be cheaper than buying tires.

CNKS · Nov 30, 2011

I put about 5000 hours in the 50's on an H with 11(12.4)-38 inch tires. They definitely are not too big. This was with a full load most of the time. 10 and 11 inch tires were both sold on them at that time. For heavy tillage, 10 inch is too small. On the other hand 12(13.6) I consider to be too large. We got good traction with 11 inch loaded tires with one set of weights, probably would have been an advantage with two sets. However, the tractor was also used for cultivation, more weight increases compaction.

Anonymous-0 · Nov 30, 2011

12.4's are easy to mount, why pay tire man. Unless you want fluid.

rustyfarmall · Nov 30, 2011

(quoted from post at 06:16:44 11/30/11) Rusty, I won't dispute that. I have 11.6 on my H, and 9.5x36 on my F-12. Personally, I prefer the smaller profile on the tractors. If I were working these daily, I would have a different view.

I said, "in my humble opinion". I outfit a show tractor differently than a worker.... :wink:

I can't explain it 100%, but the original tire size for a Farmall H was a 10x36, and then IH went to a 10x38. The 10x38 was phased out and replaced with an 11.2x38, which was replaced with the 12.4. All of those are made to fit the 10" wide rim, and are basically the same size, but the width of the tire is measured in a different place. I've got a pair of old, worn, and rotted 11.2x38s that match up perfectly to the new 12.4s, but the NEW 11.2s I have looked at do not match up to the 12.4s. Just my opinion. You're entitled to yours.

26Red · Dec 1, 2011

I'd paint the rim silver and leave the hub and spokes red. Looks pretty good then.

DanR · Dec 2, 2011

Look again. I have those same clip wheels on my 41H. However they are 36". I don't think the original steel spokes would stretch to 38".

sflem849 · Dec 2, 2011

(quoted from post at 07:16:39 11/30/11) 12.4's are easy to mount, why pay tire man. Unless you want fluid.

13.6's aren't any harder.

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