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tooltimejim

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not sure how to properly use the depth control on the international 340 utility? have a 2 point quick hitch with the three point adapter, and when I plowed the garden this past weekend , I was playing around with the depth control , placing it in different settings, but could not tell what ,if any results the settings had on the plow? anyone use depth control
 
The depth control is supposed to put the implement at the same depth after you raise and lower it. You should have been able to tell the difference in the depth you were plowing, that's about all. Does best with a blade, etc when you are trying to get a smooth surface. You can get about the same effect with a trailing implement by using spacers on the shaft of the hyd cylinder. The depth control is for the fast hitch only.
 
When you say "depth control" are you refering to the stop on the Fast Hitch or 3 point quadrant? That's the only depth control I know of. For this, you should be able to set the stop and your hitch will return to the same place when the handle is pushed to the stop.
There is also a draft control handle to the left behind you that is supposed to set draft sensativity, but I'm not sure it is a very good system... at least I can't see any difference on my 240U, but it might work if I were pulling a plow and not a blade... not enough load to make it react.
 
If you mean the traction control or mechanical draft control handle settings it probably won't work right with the 3 point adapter. When working right with a plow the higher the handle the more plow wants to lift up or more weight transfered to the tractor drive wheels. Also plowing the lock pin needs removed near bottom of the hydraulic cylinder so the hitch can float up.
 
it would be the handle behind me as I sit on left side, lift up or down , has notches that allow for different settings. I think i need to find a manual on this, possibly not hooked up right or missing something. I believe this is called a tele -depth ? thanks Jim
 
My 350 has the system you are referring to with the handle with the notches. This handle only controls how much weight is transferred so it would be considered "traction control" and not "depth control". Down is no traction control and up is maximum. The indicator on the left side of the dash tells you how much weight is being transferred. (Unless the cable to the indicator is missing like mine is.) The depth is set completely with the lifting cylinder and is also shown on the indicator. (Although that cable is also missing on my tractor!) I personally have never played with this and just run with the handle down all the way.

For the 350, the hitch operation is described in a separate manual dedicated to the Fast Hitch option. The regular tractor manual shows the option but does not say anything about how it is used. I don't know if your tractor manual would be that way or not. I found my Fast Hitch manual on eBay.
 
There are 2 ways to use the depth control. The fast hitch has a "lockout" pin that will provide downpresure, or you can unlock it to only control the depth; otherwise it can "float".

I use mine all the time, seems to work for me.

Good luck1
 
(quoted from post at 21:21:21 11/15/11) If you mean the traction control or mechanical draft control handle settings it probably won't work right with the 3 point adapter. When working right with a plow the higher the handle the more plow wants to lift up or more weight transfered to the tractor drive wheels. Also plowing the lock pin needs removed near bottom of the hydraulic cylinder so the hitch can float up.
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I'm wondering why you think the draft control will not work with the 3 point? You may be right, just wondering why you think it may not. I don't have a plow or any implement that will put a serious load on it, so I'm pretty sure mine will not do any good with just my rear blade, but it would be nice to know how or why it should work. I used to have a big garden and a Super 55 Oliver and the draft control on it worked great, but the deer ran me out of the garden "business".
 
Don't know what 3 point adapter he is using, one piece adapter may work. Don't think a setup with a top link to the tractor would work like its should. Think that 340 probably has teladepth
also, so without looking at the tractor I don't know what the problem is. Just put down some thoughts or sugestions on what part I thought poster was asking about.
 
Brendon, yes I have same as yours. That helps me understand this sytem better, and yes I do not have any cables running to dash , so I will try find a parts diagram, or manual on this sytem, would be nice to have the system complete. here I thought this was for depth control, couldn't be more wrong I guess. thanks Jim
 
(quoted from post at 08:22:36 11/16/11) Don't know what 3 point adapter he is using, one piece adapter may work. Don't think a setup with a top link to the tractor would work like its should. Think that 340 probably has teladepth
also, so without looking at the tractor I don't know what the problem is. Just put down some thoughts or sugestions on what part I thought poster was asking about.
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I don't know about his 340U, but my 240U has the factory IH 3 point, which is basically adapted from the Fast Hitch. Has the top loop that goes from one lower side to the other and a short top link off that. It is not just a pair of 3 point connections stabbed into the Fast hitch and a separate top link bracket off the rear of the tractor. since there is no separate connection for the top link, I'd think the implement would still affect the draft control linkage the same as a Fast Hitch implement.
 
That's the DRAFT control, not the depth control.

It's an early attempt at draft control, and doesn't work very well, or so I've been told. The fact that you couldn't tell if it was doing anything is pretty normal.
 
I checked the CaseIH parts website and found the cables were no longer available for my tractor. There are places around that can make up custom cables but I haven't gotten that serious yet. I'm like you; even if having a functioning indicator didn't do anything for me it would be neat to have a complete and working system in place.
 
I have one of those IH 3-point adapters as well.
I believe that you are correct in that the depth
control still should function with this setup.
The Fast Hitch would not really "know" that there
was an adapter between it and the implement since
all the forces involved go completely into the
hitch prongs; there are no other forces going into
some other location on the tractor. The 3-point
conversions that add a top link to the rockshaft
and have just the lower arms in the prongs would
be a different story.
 
(quoted from post at 20:05:34 11/16/11) I have one of those IH 3-point adapters as well.
I believe that you are correct in that the depth
control still should function with this setup.
The Fast Hitch would not really "know" that there
was an adapter between it and the implement since
all the forces involved go completely into the
hitch prongs; there are no other forces going into
some other location on the tractor. The 3-point
conversions that add a top link to the rockshaft
and have just the lower arms in the prongs would
be a different story.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. What model tractor do you have, Brendon?
 
It's a 350 row-crop with the wide front. Here's a
picture of the adapter in action. I built this
little field cultivator for my 20hp Deere M so it
isn't much of a load for a 40hp 350. (I know I run
the risk of get booted here for posting a picture
with green paint, but I'm a bit color blind when it
comes to old iron!)
a54025.jpg
 
Brendon you sure have a nice 350, I like the cultivator as well. Thanks everyone for helping me understand everything better. found a fast hitch manual on ebay. My three point looks like the one on your 350, did Ih make the three point adapter? thanks jIM
 
(quoted from post at 22:42:24 11/16/11) My three point looks like the one on your 350, did Ih make the three point adapter? thanks jIM
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In the picture, it looks pretty much like the one on my 240U and although I can't say with 100% certainty that IH [u:9c41be6f28]made[/u:9c41be6f28] it, it is shown in the IH parts book and has an IH part number. There are actually several parts involved because it does not just stab into the Fast Hitch, but several of the parts are different... the "yoke" under the tractor, the lift and anti-sway parts are the same.
That looks like it might have been a pretty good load for a JD 40.
 
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