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Tom Fleming
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I think that I saw a couple of implement tires at Burgh's that size or close to it. Problem is, with your location, shipping may cost a bit.......although you would pay shipping from Miller as well.
I would contact Burgh implement, and see if they have a decent matched set.
I would contact Burgh implement, and see if they have a decent matched set.
Tom, thanks for the lead.
I just tried them, the guy told me he's got stuff that's close, but not exactly what I need.
He's got some 6x36 and he's got some smooth implement tires that might fit. All in the $100 range. But man, hate to experiment and dig myself deeper money wise.
Problem is, this is a ground driven rake - there's a reason for the tread...
This is actually another 4H project. The kids want to restore this rake to hay with in the spring.
$600 is way more than the rake is even worth...
But... I love the look of the thing. Those big 3' spoked wheels are pretty cool looking.
decisions decisions...
Might just have to buy a lottery ticket. Winning that would make these decisions a whole lot easier.
I just tried them, the guy told me he's got stuff that's close, but not exactly what I need.
He's got some 6x36 and he's got some smooth implement tires that might fit. All in the $100 range. But man, hate to experiment and dig myself deeper money wise.
Problem is, this is a ground driven rake - there's a reason for the tread...
This is actually another 4H project. The kids want to restore this rake to hay with in the spring.
$600 is way more than the rake is even worth...
But... I love the look of the thing. Those big 3' spoked wheels are pretty cool looking.
decisions decisions...
Might just have to buy a lottery ticket. Winning that would make these decisions a whole lot easier.
Paul from MI
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I would bet that smooth tires won't be a problem. The original wheels on that type rake wee steel & they had only small lugs to keep from tearing up the hayfield. Also when they changed the design of side delivery rakes to use car size tires, they didn't usually have lugs and worked fine. Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I hate this kind of decision...
A friend of mine has an old john deere rake with steel wheels and it slips and skips all the time.
Really depends on the hay conditions.
Fortunately I don't really need to decide on the tires until the spring.
I've got all winter to search for some used ones.
Somebody was nice enough to donate this thing to our club, so we've got no money into so far.
We'll overhaul it over the winter, and if everything looks good, and we don't need to spend much money on it, I'll probably just break down and buy the right ones for it.
(of course, nagging me in the back of my head is the fact that by the time I'm ready to buy the prices will probably have gone up another 50%!)
A friend of mine has an old john deere rake with steel wheels and it slips and skips all the time.
Really depends on the hay conditions.
Fortunately I don't really need to decide on the tires until the spring.
I've got all winter to search for some used ones.
Somebody was nice enough to donate this thing to our club, so we've got no money into so far.
We'll overhaul it over the winter, and if everything looks good, and we don't need to spend much money on it, I'll probably just break down and buy the right ones for it.
(of course, nagging me in the back of my head is the fact that by the time I'm ready to buy the prices will probably have gone up another 50%!)
The originals where smooth, I have a one on mine, they're just a really tall ribbed implement tire.
There's a Polish company called Stomil that made tires in that size. Right now my rake has one Stomil and one original Goodyear that's pretty checked in the sidewall.
I probably shouldn't tell you that that I picked up another Stomil last year for 50 bucks, brand new.
Just need to get a tube and I'll have two new ones...
K
There's a Polish company called Stomil that made tires in that size. Right now my rake has one Stomil and one original Goodyear that's pretty checked in the sidewall.
I probably shouldn't tell you that that I picked up another Stomil last year for 50 bucks, brand new.
Just need to get a tube and I'll have two new ones...
K
dansuper27
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Get the right tires for it as you need tread on a ground driven rake. I had to buy two new traction implement tires for my JD ground driven rake and hated to pay $165.15 each for them but it works great now and as long as you go out twice a year and spray the heck out of them with Armor All or something equivalent they will probably last 20 years or more. To me spraying the tires down is right there with greasing the equipment before you use it. Just part of the maintenance now since the prices have got so high.
165 each I could take 275 each really makes me hesitate though...
Again - I think I'm going to have the kids restore the thing - and once it's all painted up nice and working good I'll feel a lot better about buying them as a finishing touch.
I'm attaching a picture of the tires of what's on there right now.
Mines a 3 bar Rake/Tedder. I don't think the tedder feature worked all that well but I guess it was better then nothing. I know my Grandfather sprung for a Kunh 4 basket tedder in the 70s, probably the newest piece of equipment he bought!
Post some pictures when you are done if you can. I kind of have a soft spot for these old guys. Check out page 10 of Guy Fay's [u:db28415e7e]Farmall Tractors in the 1950s[/u:db28415e7e], there a picture of your rake when it was new being pulled by a SA. Sounds like you will be able to recreate the photo at some point!
K
Just looked that book up on Amazon - NEW they want exactly what one new tire would cost me! 275.00!!!
Fortunately they have the "look inside" feature, and there's the picture right on page 10 as you said.
that is PERFECT! That confirms the paint scheme for me!
I've been searching EVERYWHERE for that info! And getting contradictory advice over in the implement group.
Those are the colors I'm going with.
Thanks again - that really was a good find.
And that fact that it's being pulled by a super A is even better!
Just looked that book up on Amazon - NEW they want exactly what one new tire would cost me! 275.00!!!
Fortunately they have the "look inside" feature, and there's the picture right on page 10 as you said.
that is PERFECT! That confirms the paint scheme for me!
I've been searching EVERYWHERE for that info! And getting contradictory advice over in the implement group.
Those are the colors I'm going with.
Thanks again - that really was a good find.
And that fact that it's being pulled by a super A is even better![/quote]
Wow! It's not all that old, seems odd it would be so high.
If you really want one to have on hand check out:
http://product.half.ebay.com/Farmal...y-Fay-2000-Paperback/1657302&cpid=4957959
Isn't technology wonderful though, being able to peek inside and find what you want from your computer?
One of the reasons I bought that book is that it has that picture in it. Someday if I paint mine that's what it's going to look like.
K
Yeah, I'm lucky that I get to use the excuse of doing it with my 4h club! Sort of justifies the time and expense if you know what i mean.
I'm thinking of buying that book just for that picture too. Really love the fact that it's with a Super A just like the one we're restoring with the rake.
There ARE cheaper copies on amazon - used ones for $14 I think. Just thought it was ironic that I went to buy it and the "new" copy costs exactly what a tire costs.
And you're right - technology is (SOMTIMES) a wonderful thing. I thought for sure I was going to hit the end before page 10. But I got lucky. Will probably still buy the book anyways, even though I can see it online.
Something else I noticed in that picture - it looks like it's got the smooth tires on it - but can't see that much detail in my online copy - can you see it better in the book?
Where do you live kopek? Massachusetts here.
It's a good book, beyond that one picture. 
They're smooth/ribbed tires. They're the same as what came on the rake I have, I think they have like 5 small ribs on them. I don't ever recall my grandfather having traction issues with it. As I recall you really couldn't rush your self with it, you had to go slow and not try and take to big a bite. He wouldn't let anyone else operate it, I think mostly due to the fact that parts are NLA and he didn't want to break anything but also because there was a nack to running it. I've played with it a couple of time, raked up a big windrow that I forked onto my truck and it worked like a champ.
I'm in Maine, Mid-Coast area. We're practically neighbors when you take into account all the Mid-Westerner we have running around here!
K
They're smooth/ribbed tires. They're the same as what came on the rake I have, I think they have like 5 small ribs on them. I don't ever recall my grandfather having traction issues with it. As I recall you really couldn't rush your self with it, you had to go slow and not try and take to big a bite. He wouldn't let anyone else operate it, I think mostly due to the fact that parts are NLA and he didn't want to break anything but also because there was a nack to running it. I've played with it a couple of time, raked up a big windrow that I forked onto my truck and it worked like a champ.
I'm in Maine, Mid-Coast area. We're practically neighbors when you take into account all the Mid-Westerner we have running around here!
K
That's good to know about the tires. I believe that's one of the reasons I originally started this whole discussion about 100 replies ago. I've been wondering if the plain ribbed ones would be ok. I'd REALLY hate to spend the money on them only to find out I shouldn't have cheaped out. I've been hearing conflicting comments.
It always helps to see an old picture like this to give a little credit to a theory. I'm now leaning much more towards those more affordable plain tires.
Besides, I would think those huge wheels would give enough torque on the axle so that slippage wouldn't be that big a problem no matter how smooth the tires are.
This picture really did make my day.
And yes, it is good to talk with another New Englander on here. There are a few of us, but we're clearly in the minority.
If you're ever down here in MA, I hope you'll let me know. There aren't too many people around here who can appreciate an old rusty hay rake.
It always helps to see an old picture like this to give a little credit to a theory. I'm now leaning much more towards those more affordable plain tires.
Besides, I would think those huge wheels would give enough torque on the axle so that slippage wouldn't be that big a problem no matter how smooth the tires are.
This picture really did make my day.
And yes, it is good to talk with another New Englander on here. There are a few of us, but we're clearly in the minority.
If you're ever down here in MA, I hope you'll let me know. There aren't too many people around here who can appreciate an old rusty hay rake.
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