C lube fill/drains

First i want to thank all here for the help so far on my C. you guys are great.

I've located all the part numbers I immediatly need, both from the IH lookup, and now napa crossed.

i also have a good idea of the task ahead witht he pulley and pto shaft seal.

will be getting the big bearing splitter that HF sells.. i think I'll need it vs the smaller kit I already have.. the large one has 5/8 hardware and looks beefier.

I do have a bottle jack and can go that route with a backing plate if needed, but wonder if I should try a large 8" 3 jaw puller ont he bearing splitter?

also.. took another look at the hand crank hole on my pulley hub. unless them threads are hidden in there.. i sure don't see any. hopefully when I hav ethe tin off, bellhousing cribbed up and pedistal off, it will be more apparrent about them threads.

next.. been looking her over. see an inverted head plug front left of the op platform.. is this a common sump fill, or is this machine use a seperate diffy / tranny fill? or is this not a fill for either?

I assume drains on the bottom will be apparrent.

I see what looks like could be a level check plug on the back right about even witht he axle, and over kinda near the pto shaft.. am i close?

found out the knobs on the oil pan are checks.. figured as much there. I see the oil add on the top under the big soda can sized lump cover... drain should be obvious i assume..

on the bottom of the pedistal, I see what looks like could be a drain 'cap'.. but don't see any kind of fill for the steering / front pedistal.

other than a hundred zerks i see.. did i miss anything?

no drop boxes on the axles on this model...

no water pump

located a place to order manuals, and the gaskets and seals and filters..

looks like it's just a matter of time, money, and tools and gumption to tear that front end off..

thanks

soundguy

I have pulled a couple of the front pulley's off, and there are some excellent posts in the archive on this subject.

I use the 8" bearing splitter, with a snap-on heavy duty puller. Works fine using a 1/2" impact wrench. I do heat the pulley shoulder up a bit with the acetylene speed wrench......just don't over do it. Also, you need to pop it "loose" before using the impact wrench. Torque down the puller, and rap the puller center bolt with a couple of moderate blows. Torque some more, then rap again. usually after the 2nd or 3rd iterations of this, the pulley will pop loose.

When it first pops "loose" it will make a sound that causes you to think you've been shot and you will have skid marks in your knickers. These old girls do NOT come off with common 3 jaw gear puller's. Don't even attempt it with one of those. Use a 2 jaw puller, minimally rated 7 tons or more. My puller is rated at 15 tons.

IMHO of course.

Yes, that is a fill plug on the operator platform. Drain also will take a 1/2 ratchet and is apparent centered in lowest part of diff. I hope you have better luck than I did removing it, as mine was rusted due to water in diff. I broke it out, and ended up welding a bolt to it, and the heat helped it come right out. Got nearly a gallon of water out of there, and had likely never been changed. I know in the 50 years I was around the tractor it had never been changed. Reminds me, mine needs changed again.

Here's the rig I used, both on and off...

Those crank threads are in there, way in there. If you must know use a lenght of all thread, go in from the crank hole.

Threads are way in there.
Don't use the 3 jaw.

A jaw puller will break the pulley. Some cranks are not threaded. If it is, make sure to put a small slug in to protect the threads.

Oh, and steering fill - you will need to remove the grille, then it will be readily visible.

thanks. I figured there was one hidden somewhere.

I might start getting the tins off tonight if the honeydolist is short.

soundguy

i have the exact same bearing splitter thhat charlienj used below. that's what i was going to pull from.. not the pulley itself.

soundguy

I wasn't going to use the 3 jay on the pulley itself, but on the bearing splitter.

i have one exactly like you have.

just plan on getting the allthread today for it. our local store sells GR5 allthread and that's what I'll use.

judging by the amount of oil leakin I don't think I'll need any penetrating oil

I have both a small and medium bottle jack, will try whichever one fits best.

god some good stiff plate ( 1/2" ) I can torch up for a base plate.

soundguy

i didn't mean use the jaw puller on the pulley, but on the bearing seperator.

in any case I have the same seperator you do. grabbing some gr5 allthread at the hardware store today and will torch a backing plate out of 1/2", and have a couple bottle jacks to choose from for size.

soundguy

is that 5/8 coarse thread that you used to reseat the pulley?

thanks

soundguy

Left side of engine crankcase are two oil level petcocks. Use the upper one to check the oil level. Oil should just barely come out there. If not, open bottom petcock. If it doesn't come out there, close bottom petcock, open top petcock then add oil thru fillpipe on top of hood until oil just starts to come out top petcock. The inverted plug to the left of the gearshift is for adding oil to transmission housing. Plug on right side at axle level is level check point. There's also a fill and drain point for pto housing. On front end, there are fill and drain plugs for the steering pedestal. Very important: there is a small vent plug to the left side of the fill plug. It has a very small hole for venting and I'll assure you it is plugged shut. It definitely will need to be cleaned and opened. Drain, flush and refill all of these with gear oil in trans and pedestal & motor oil in crankcase. You won't believe what you will get out of some of these old tractors when you drain them as hardly any of them were properly maintained. I would bet you'll find what I found in five of them: the fluid in the front pedestal and in the transmission had never been changed from the factory (50-years old!). In one of the five I even doubted if the engine oil had ever been changed.

sounds about like the same care that most fords get.

can you expound on the oil fill / drain on the pto housing?

and that forward fill / drain does that handle the trans and rear diffy/axle?

thanks

soundguy

was slow at work today so I walked out to the shop and rummaged thru the goody pile and found some plate that I torched about 8" square and punched 2 holes in it, then made another smaller say 3" one that I punched a center hole in.. got a few pieces of pipe for it, and some allthread and the bearing splitter all ready.. now just got to get the front end off.. might get an hour in on takingthe tin off tonight.. maybee get somewhere anyway..

soundguy