Simple paint code question

which paint code is the darker red, IH50, or IH2150 ??

I know one is more "orangey", and one a deeper red - just can never remember which is which.

2150 is the old paint.

(quoted from post at 00:17:46 09/23/11) 2150 is the old paint.

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But which one is the darker shade? I'm not sure what the older shade was.....dark, or orangey.

2150 is not orangey in my opinion.

I believe IH50 is a deeper red.

I meant orangey-er...

For lack of a better way to describe it. Not REALLY orang-ish.

I THOUGHT this was an easy question, maybe not!

Maybe if I try it a different way: I've gotten rattle cans at tractor supply of "international harvester red" in the past.

I know they only have one shade of red, it's either the 50, or the 2050 - but I can't remember which.

Which ever one that is, it's the one I consider orangey-er, and coincedentally, what I know is the wrong color for my tractor.

They of course refer to it as "IH red" as if there's only one red...

I wanted to try to find a source for the paint I need, but I don't know which color it is!

2150 is what the dealers sell now, or has it changed in the last couple of years?

(quoted from post at 02:21:57 09/23/11) I meant orangey-er...

For lack of a better way to describe it. Not REALLY orang-ish.

I THOUGHT this was an easy question, maybe not!

Maybe if I try it a different way: I've gotten rattle cans at tractor supply of "international harvester red" in the past.

I know they only have one shade of red, it's either the 50, or the 2050 - but I can't remember which.

Which ever one that is, it's the one I consider orangey-er, and coincedentally, what I know is the wrong color for my tractor.

They of course refer to it as "IH red" as if there's only one red...

I wanted to try to find a source for the paint I need, but I don't know which color it is!

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First, is a picture of a Farmall Super A (the one with the blue cultivators) that was painted with the Tractor Supply Alkylid Enamel IH Red paint.

Below that is a picture of a Farmall 140 that was painted with Automotive Acrylic Enamel mixed at the Auto Paint Store from the IH 2150 paint codes.

Hopefully you can tell if there is a difference. Hardener was used with both paint jobs.

... now I'm getting more confused!

Lighting makes a huge difference in pictures, so it's really hard to say. Not to mention the monitor itself...

If you look at the two pictures of the 140, the one on the left is what I'd call the darker red, the one on the right looks to me like the color I get from the tractor supply paint -

And I'm assuming it's the same tractor.

I guess I'll just have to dig a little again to find out for sure what mine is "supposed" to be.

It's a 48, so I think they had switched to the new paint already, but then switched back to the old for 48...

I was hoping to avoid having to dig up that info again, but it shouldn't be too hard.

Thank you all for the responses.

Nice tractors by the way RTR - great pictures.

To add to the confusion -- According to Guy Fay, there is little difference between IH 50 and IH 2150. To further the confusion, IH 50 was used from 1936-mid 1949 when it was replaced by IH 1102B. IH 201 replaced 1102B in 1958 with the introduction of the 460/560, etc. IH 2150 replaced IH 201 in 1961 with the introduction of the 404/504. This can be documented by looking it up on the WI Historical web site. I don't think 1102B and 201 can be mixed. 50 and 2150 can be mixed. One other opinion I have that I have stated several times on this forum and the Paint and Bodywork Forum: Only an opinion, but you cannot get the original colors anymore because enviornmental changes have forced the paint companies to change the formulation, thus changing the color slightly. Bottom line is, just use 2150, or if you have a pre 1949 1/2 tractor use IH 50, I doubt if there is much difference. Don't try to compare it with farm store paint -- no one knows what that color is, probably even the ones who mix it. OR, if you wish you can have the paint dealer experiment with the toners as he mixes until you come up with a color you like. I have done this to remove some of the orange tint in the 2150, but it is hard to tell the difference.

Yeah, I'm with you on believing it really doesn't matter, and you can't get the exact color as it came out of the factory anyway - In fact, I'm sure the factory colors probably differed slightly even within the same paint codes.

I always go back to the fact that these are tractors, not sports cars. I think the original intent was to make them red, and that's about it.

I can't imagine they were doing any kind of deep spectral analysis to ensure each and every tractor was exactly the same as the last.

HOWEVER, with all that being said - If I paint mine with 50, and read later somewhere that it was supposed to be 2150 - or vice versa - it'll drive me insane. Even IF the colors are essentially the same.