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Stuck Clutch?

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Grumpydaniel

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1943 Farmall H: I recently took the gear shifter out to have the bottom end built up with weld (nicely done, too). However, when I start the tractor this morning, I can't get it into gear; they grind if I force it. There suddenly seems to be a LOT of play in the pedal, too. The shift sliders are aligned, and I can take the lever from any gear to any other (with the tractor off, of course), but there is no going into gear with the tractor running. What the H happened (pun intended)? Thanks guys!
 
Could be a stuck clutch.

If you scroll down a bit, there was recently a lot of discussion on this matter.
 
i have an h that the clutch will stick if it sets a couple weeks. i block the pedal down when i park it so it doesnt happen. when it did stick, i would drag the tractor out of the barn, point the front end toward the field, plan an escape route and start the tractor in 4th gear. keep applying both brakes with the clutch depressed while the tractor is running to break the clutch loose. if you can hook it up to a plow or disk, you can pull the implement with the clutch down till it pops loose.
 
OMG! I can't believe this! Wow, am I glad I talked to you guys first!! Can I rap on the thing first to see if it'll pop loose then? And where would I rap it?
 
SAME HERE!

I leave mine aimed OUT of the barn for that reason.Doesnt do it ALL the time,but I find if i really use her ALOT,and then leave it set for a week or two,it will happen.
 
The only way to get to the FW is to remove the starter. The starter hole gives access to the Flywheel. Not much will happen unless there is stress on it. Using a hand crank with 200 pounds hanging on the handle, with the tractor in High gear and wheels blocked will do. Jim
 
Well, this ain't going good. Short of trying to overturn the tractor beside a tree, I've tried hooking to a heavy object (1959 MF-50) and popping it loose (failed), and tried setting up a vibration by rapping on the clutch with a BFH and a large drift pin (failed, too). IU even tried chaining the Massey to it, putting the H in 4th and popping this way (with the clutch pedal blocked open, of course), and it just drug it across my concrete shop floor. (I did, however, get a better idea how tuff that little Massey is!). But this ain't working. Do I need to drop the hydraulic pump and disassemble the thing?
 
Well, this ain't going good. Short of trying to overturn the tractor beside a tree, I've tried hooking to a heavy object (1959 MF-50) and popping it loose (failed), and tried setting up a vibration by rapping on the clutch with a BFH and a large drift pin (failed, too). IU even tried chaining the Massey to it, putting the H in 4th and popping this way (with the clutch pedal blocked open, of course), and it just drug it across my concrete shop floor. (I did, however, get a better idea how tuff that little Massey is!). But this ain't working. Do I need to drop the hydraulic pump and disassemble the thing?
 
i just noticed in your original post you have a lot of play in the clutch pedal after you worked on the shifter. you may want to drop the belly pump and take a look in there to see what is going on. you can loosen the clutch and see if you can free up the disc, then spray some brake cleaner in there to clean it up some.
 
If you've got a large open field, you can start it up in gear and hit the brakes a few times (with the clutch pressed in). That should do it.

Not a big fan of doing it this way unless you've got PLENTY of flat ground, and you're real comfortable behind the wheel.

Be sure your brake pedals are locked together, and keep the throttle way down to start.
 
And for the record, I'd re-read janicholson's post first.

I'm really not a big fan of starting in gear - just explaining it as A way to do it.
 
Yea,DO NOT get yourself hurt here !!!!!!!!!

If it IS NOT coming loose after some REASONABLE use,it might be time to start a little disasembly and look at the clutch/throwout bearing like the others are saying on here.

Please,DO NOT get yourself killed by turning your tractor over,please!
 
"LOT of free play..."

There's something wrong other than a stuck clutch. If it was just a stuck clutch the pedal would feel the same.

Something is broken inside, if nothing obvious is broken outside.
 
Well, my friends, you given me much to think about. Be assured, I ain't chainin' my H to a tree and risk overturning. Not gonna do that one. But I've started disassembly procedings this afternoon. Thanks much guys for all the help. You're the reason that, whenever I have tractor trouble, I come to this forum FIRST!
 
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