560 paint help.... PLEASE

colby64 · Aug 4, 2011

Ok...

Paint questions for you, my 1st thought was to use caseIH red. Then wet sand & polish, w/ high dollar clear coat.

BUT my painters dont like that ONE bit and prefer Deltron which is HIGH dollar stuff, but it's like $1000.

OR they said lower grade urthane paint is ok too, but try NOT to use caseIH stuff.

Single stage, so they can wet sand & polish.

HELP???

Stemmy · Aug 4, 2011

On my M im using Case IH 2150 from the dealer. Ive been putting 2 coats of primer on, wet sanding it, then putting 2 coats of sealer on and then 4 coats of Paint. It looks like it has clear coat on it, its got plenty of depth and gloss to it. heres a pic, kind of hard to tell but you get the idea...

FC Andy · Aug 4, 2011

Paint is just one of those things- everybody has a different way of doing things. A friend of mine cleaned his tractor well, and then brushed Case IH 2150 with hardener onto his 400. He then Had the sheet metal sprayed with the same paint. No clearcoat. Tractor looks great 2 years later. He keeps it waxed and fairly clean. The castings still look good, too. It's no parade queen, he uses it to run augers, pull wagons, and for a little plowing. It's a tractor I'd be proud to sit on. I've painted implements with CIH 2150 without hardener and been Impressed with the results. I like how it looks, and lasts. Is It on the same quality as automotive paint? Probably not. But I've seen and had good results with it. When I get a tractor ready to paint, I'm using my friend's method. You do what you like and what your budget allows.

colby64 · Aug 4, 2011

this is great info....

this tractor is DONE with it's working life, just FYI.

I just want it to ROCK! thanks

rustyfarmall · Aug 4, 2011

(quoted from post at 14:36:10 08/04/11) Ok...

Paint questions for you, my 1st thought was to use caseIH red. Then wet sand & polish, w/ high dollar clear coat.

BUT my painters dont like that ONE bit and prefer Deltron which is HIGH dollar stuff, but it's like $1000.

OR they said lower grade urthane paint is ok too, but try NOT to use caseIH stuff.

Single stage, so they can wet sand & polish.

HELP???

Find someone else to paint your tractor. After all, it is YOUR tractor, and it IS your money. The Case-IH 2150 red is excellent quality paint and will produce a very high gloss even without the hardener.

Stemmy · Aug 4, 2011

the Case-IH 2150 red is excellent quality paint and will produce a very high gloss even without the hardener.

I'm impressed with how my stuff is turning out, esp for a cheap paint (around $60 a gallon) mines got very little hardener in it, Im mixing it to about 8/1/.5

Farmallhal · Aug 4, 2011

I have several restored Farmalls and the last one I had painted was done with the CaseIH 2150 with hardener. It was painted by a person who does a couple of tractors each winter in his shop as time permits. He has painted numerous IHC tractors and likes the finish obtained with the CaseIH 2150 w/hardener. It has a very high gloss shine (no clear coat was applied) and since I keep my tractors inside without exposure to sunlight (except when outside being used) the CaseIH paint seems to be as good as any. I have other tractors which were painted with high price paints and in some cases aren't as nice as this one. I think most of paint quality is in the application and not because of the product being used. Hope this helps in your decisions to be made, Hal.

rhtx55 · Aug 4, 2011

It's hard to tell, but the Ih paint seems to have a bit of an orange tint to me. It is practicably unnoticeable until you get an original tractor parked next to it, then you can tell the different shades. Have your painter take a piece that is original and have that color matched. I think you will be more pleased with the final results. Both Dodge & Ford have a red that is very close to the old fire engine red, ask your painter his opinion, & before you decide on it, have him show you some samples of how it will look when finished. Then go with what you prefer.

Dmack · Aug 4, 2011

Dude, IH 2150 paint when correctly applied can give you just as good of finish as base coat clear coat or any other high end paint available. Please use the factory paint and be sure to use the correct color of white. I believe the number on the white is 935 blanc. I'm getting ready to give my 560 a face lift and I will use the original paint with just a touch of hardener in it. As for the tire size I'm going for 7.50x16 for the fronts. Hope this helps.

CNKS · Aug 4, 2011

White is IH 901/PPG 8665.

Baelee05 · Aug 4, 2011

Its your tractor so its your call. With that said I believe you selected these guys based on work of theirs that you have seen? You made the decision to go with them because that is the quality of job you wanted for your tractor. Since you hired them to do the job take their advice and use something other then the 2150. The 2150 is okay paint and can be laid on to give a nice shine. I would be okay with maybe using it on a working tractor or a tractor I was planning to sell. If I remember correctly this tractor is kind of being restored in memory of your father and will be more or less a show and parade tractor? If that is the case let these guys paint it with what they want. Just make sure they get a really good match on color. Most true body and fender guys don't like to use straight enamel because it is harder to work with and can give you fits. I was a believer in regular old 2150 until I did a job with an acrylic enamel and I've never looked back. Acrylic is only a notch or two above regular enamel. Your guys are probably using something much better. I'll probably get flamed for this but 2150 is not as good of paint as some of the more expensive ones. It has it's place but I don't believe it is on your tractor. JMHO.

sflem849 · Aug 4, 2011

Your painter is correct. CNH 2150 isn't supposed to have clear coat over the top. It won't work right. Something about it's chemistry. If I were him I wouldn't do it either. When it fogs our or who knows what then what happens? You will say ____ painted it and you will probably forget to tell the part about how you told the professional what paint system to use. It's his name on the paint job so he wants to do it right.

BTW, I have used the CNH silver by the label and it worked great. Good shine and rock hard finish. The stuff at Farm and Fleet/TSC is junk. Leave it at the store.

truckerlary · Aug 4, 2011

I had been using the 2150 paint from IH until NAPA
came out with a cheaper version of Acrylic enamel
that goes under the label of commercial coating.
I've since switched to this paint thinking it might
be a little more durable. I really like the way it
flows on and the finish it gives. Don't know about
how durable it is yet. This or the 2150 from IH will
give you a fantastic paint job.

farmallboy15 · Aug 5, 2011

i had used the tsc restoration series paint on my H and manure spreader and it looks good. but it wont level out to a perfect smooth finish on sheetmetal, or that could be me not being the best a prepping sheetmetal. on the castings you cant tell a difference.

kevinj54 · Aug 5, 2011

I done mine with 2150 and a bit of hardener, looks fine to me and no doubt better than when it left IH.

I only wanted a 60 year old well maintained tractor as opposed to something they never were meant to be.

dhermesc · Aug 5, 2011

Agreed

Putting clear over a single stage paint some times works, sometimes you get a mess.

The single stage and clear coat dry at different rates. The clear will actually dry sooner and that is what causes wrinkles. The clear needs to be applied shortly after the paint, to early and the clear "wrinkles", to late and the clear coat doesn't chemically bond and is washed away within a year of two of painting under normal use.

I painted my 350 11 years ago with Rustoleum IH red. Still looks pretty good but then it spends most of its life under a shed roof saving it from sun fade.

Dmack · Aug 5, 2011

I checked to be sure 935 blanc is the current paint number the off white color is in IH paint. My parts guy says 901 was the original parts number.

rich4 · Aug 5, 2011

I may not have a popular comment, but isn't the 2150 color a little brighter/redder than the original color was. Looks great but they never looked that red when new. Has anyone used a lighter shade to correctly match what was used on these tractors when they were new.

colby64 · Aug 5, 2011

thanks for all the info guys!

yes, i do want to use clear coat on hoods & fenders.... so that means NO single stage (caseih paint).

Im excited... going to have a great look machine! We are going to bring it to RPRU next yr.

Dad and I back in June 09' caught up with heritage tour in Hennepin IL & we were planning our 560 project then on

before that this tractor was always working on the farm. Only a major change, dad passed away the next month from a unexpected heart attack. So needless to say this ol' tractor has lots of meaning to it & I'm excited to share it when it's done.

Oh and my finance' and I get married late next month, & the ol' 560 will be there too.

CNKS · Aug 7, 2011

IH usually uses a new paint code to replace the old one, in this case 935 is not the same color as 901 -- but do what you want, I doubt if anyone will argue with you. An another example is 2150 red, which CaseIH uses as the replacement for the previous IH 50, 1102B, and 201.

colby64 · Aug 13, 2011

i do want to add clear coat so that rules out single stage paint.

Originally we were going to just clear the hoods & fenders, but now my painters tell me that this tractor is sharp enough to use clear on tractor too. Ok i guess these guys have been doing this for years.

Wow this is a lot of work.... but super excited to see it done.

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