pics of the M i purchased this week

kennell · Jul 21, 2011

Found this M the other day. I couldn't resist as the guy wasn't asking a fortune like most people are in my part of the world. I didn't even try to beat him down, just gave him the cash.
The old tractor runs good, but doesn't have a generator or alternator, which would make it tought to charge the batterybut he didn't give me a battery.
I'm a little puzzled why it has an extra gas tank, when its a gas tractor. I wonder if it had been a MD originally?
I changed all the fluids yesterday. Next is to straighten the sheet metal a bit. Later Kent

sflem849 · Jul 21, 2011

Back in the day you could get tractors that ran on distillate or kerosene. I'm not sure how to tell which your tractor was. The JDs of the era would run on either. They had the little tank for good gas to get it started then you would switch it over to the dist when it was warm.

WY JERRY · Jul 21, 2011

Check the last part of the serial number. If it ends in X5 it was originally a distillate model. X1 was used for gas.

kennell · Jul 21, 2011

I'll check the serial number tomorrow. Thanks

W.Brehm · Jul 21, 2011

Looks like you have your self a nice project tractor there.

CenTex Farmall · Jul 21, 2011

You have a tractor that was originally setup for distillate or kerosene. The small tank that's been kinda beat on was for gasoline to start and warm up the engine, then you switch to the distillate in the main tank. I can't tell from the picture if you still have the distillate manifold or not. Most of the time people swapped them for a gasoline manifold and removed the radiator shutters.

Looks like a good one that hasn't been messed with too much. I see a pulley for a belt in one of the pictures. You also have the earlier style wheels. Nice to see one once in a while with 45 degree lugs.

CenTex Farmall · Jul 21, 2011

Almost forgot: Very easy to put an alternator on and will fit under the hood without cutting. Start by flipping the generator bracket over and go from there. Even without either one, with a fully charged battery that thing will run for hours and hours.

gold1456 · Jul 21, 2011

The MD has the muffler on the other side of the hood.

CoopertownBob · Jul 22, 2011

(quoted from post at 19:32:13 07/21/11)
I'm a little puzzled why it has an extra gas tank, when its a gas tractor. I wonder if it had been a MD originally?

As others have stated, it was a dual fuel tractor originally. The info about the serial number ending in an X code may not hold up, it depends upon what year the tractor is. All the letter series were originally distillate tractors, thus the lack of an X code at the end of the serial number also indicated a distillate model. Also, an MD would reflect that fact on the serial plate as well, in the block titled, "model", and the serial number itself with be predicated with "FDBK" instead of "FBK". If you don't know the year model, just post the serial number here and someone will be able to tell you within hours, I am sure.

And the X5 code indicated special 5000 ft altitude pistons, not fuel used, though it was only used on distillate models. X17 is the factory code for distillate fuel engines.

rustyfarmall · Jul 22, 2011

(quoted from post at 22:12:17 07/21/11)

(quoted from post at 19:32:13 07/21/11)
I'm a little puzzled why it has an extra gas tank, when its a gas tractor. I wonder if it had been a MD originally?

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As others have stated, it was a dual fuel tractor originally. The info about the serial number ending in an X code may not hold up, it depends upon what year the tractor is. All the letter series were originally distillate tractors, thus the lack of an X code at the end of the serial number also indicated a distillate model. Also, an MD would reflect that fact on the serial plate as well, in the block titled, "model", and the serial number itself with be predicated with "FDBK" instead of "FBK". If you don't know the year model, just post the serial number here and someone will be able to tell you within hours, I am sure.

And the X5 code indicated special 5000 ft altitude pistons, not fuel used, though it was only used on distillate models. X17 is the factory code for distillate fuel engines.

The majority of the factory original distillate tractors DID NOT have any suffix.

55 50 Ron · Jul 22, 2011

What do you mean by "older style wheels" ? Didn't know there were any different styles except if they were originally on steel.
Or are you referring to the tires only?

kennell · Jul 22, 2011

Ther rims have a hump in the middle of the rim, which is way different than the later style with the double bevel. Kent

sflem849 · Jul 22, 2011

(quoted from post at 15:00:12 07/22/11) Ther rims have a hump in the middle of the rim, which is way different than the later style with the double bevel. Kent

They didn't use the double bevel rims until the 400/450s came around. You could swap either way, but you would have to change the centers as well as the rims.

CenTex Farmall · Jul 22, 2011

If you look at a profile cut through the rim, The earlier ones will have one diameter where the bead sits and then a smaller diameter where the rim goes on the hub. The transition from one to the other is a continuous curve.

On the later wheels you have an intermediate diameter and the two transitions are more like steps.

Also the later wheels are 12" wide while the earlier ones are 11" wide.

sflem849 · Jul 23, 2011

(quoted from post at 20:32:44 07/22/11) If you look at a profile cut through the rim, The earlier ones will have one diameter where the bead sits and then a smaller diameter where the rim goes on the hub. The transition from one to the other is a continuous curve.

On the later wheels you have an intermediate diameter and the two transitions are more like steps.

Also the later wheels are 12" wide while the earlier ones are 11" wide.

I get what you are saying. I think your sizes are one step too big. I haven't seen too many 12" rims on Ms. Mostly 10s and 11s.

This is a set of 11s. You can see they have a two step hump in the middle.

These are off my SMTA. IIRC they are 11s. It is really tough to measure them on the tractor.

I will go check my MD for the one step transition. It has 10" rims. I remember because I wanted to mount a set of free 14.9s on it, but I couldn't because the rims were WAY too narrow.

CenTex Farmall · Jul 26, 2011

LOL!

Yeah, I goofed on that one! Should have been 11" and 10". That's what happens when you stay up too late and play on the internet!

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