My New Farmall C20 Two Bottom Plow (PICS)

Purchased this old Farmall C20 Two Bottom Plow today. It seems to be in great shape! I will use is on my 1948 Farmall C. I just need to find the setup to put on the back of my tractor.

Purchased it for $150.
Brought her home in the back of my old ford truck today. It was only 5 miles from home. I love finding stuff that is close!

Thanks for Reading!
From Denton, Nebraska.
Andrew Kean

Really Cool! I've never seen one with the gauge wheel before.

What your looking for is the fast hitch assembly and specifically a leveling link that goes from the touch control to the fast hitch assembly. This will allow you to pitch the plow front to back and side to side from the operators seat.

The Fast Hitch will fit your C but was designed for the Super C. The only issue you'll have is designing a mounting bracket that takes the place of the cast brake drum on the Super C

I think he'll also need the hydraulics package from a Super C or 200, so he has the 2-way valve. I don't know of any way to operate the Fast-Hitch with the touch control on a C. Be sure you get an entire F-H assembly off a Super C/200 so you have the pitch and leveling linkage to the Touch Control. Might compare your C to one of those to see if that linkage has clearance before you built adaptor plates to mount a Fast-Hitch.
You would be better off selling this one and finding the mounted plow for a C that operates from the Touch Control. I think you are in for a HUGE job adding a Fast Hitch to a C.
Is that corn picker elevator off a 227?

Forget the plow I like the truck

jimmy

You can operate the hydraulic cylinder on the fast hitch using a bypass block and a common 2-way open center spool valve, too...

(quoted from post at 08:51:10 07/11/11) You can operate the hydraulic cylinder on the fast hitch using a bypass block and a common 2-way open center spool valve, too...

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True, but I don't think a Fast Hitch from Super C or 200 will simply bolt up to a C. Also to buy a [u:34f7f44a24]complete[/u:34f7f44a24] Fast Hitch will make this a very expensive plow, where a plow for a C will be a lot cheaper. Dad had one that I think Mom about had to give it away to get rid of it... as a matter of fact, I'm not sure but what it may have just been left at the farm when Mom moved to town, or sold for salvage... this would have been late '90s.

The SC,200 FH and hydraulics are a direct bolt on to a C. The only issue is the left side bracket that bolts to the SUPER C cast brake drum. You don't need that attachment point if you have the leveling link. If you do want that attachment point you'll have to fabricate a bracket.

I've had 2 C's with fast hitch on them. 1 is still on. The other was scavenged for parts.
Please don't consider modifying that plow to any other system. It was designed to work on the Fast Hitch system is far superior to a 3 point plow.

(quoted from post at 12:13:25 07/11/11) The SC,200 FH and hydraulics are a direct bolt on to a C. The only issue is the left side bracket that bolts to the SUPER C cast brake drum. You don't need that attachment point if you have the leveling link. If you do want that attachment point you'll have to fabricate a bracket.

I've had 2 C's with fast hitch on them. 1 is still on. The other was scavenged for parts.
Please don't consider modifying that plow to any other system. It was designed to work on the Fast Hitch system is far superior to a 3 point plow.

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So the left side bracket you mention is where you pin the leveling to when you remove the leveling link so you can use the Touch control for something else? I remember it pinned solid, but did not remember where. I know the "pitch" front to back pins on the right of the torque tube when not in use. (been over 50 years since I used one)
I also do not recommend modifying the plow... small 3 point plows are everywhere... small point Fast Hitch plows are hard to find, and that crank adjustable land wheel is really scarce... straight pinned ones are more common. We didn't have one on ours, but did have notched coulters... we also had those "wings" on the end of the moldboards.

IH Fan,

There is a leveling link that goes from the fast hitch to the touch control on the left side of the tractor. It allows you
to pitch the plow left to right. This is really cool when you start plowing on level ground, set the plow accordingly,
then when you drop the wheel in the furrow you adjust the plow again. Makes for a pretty job.

The front to back adjustment is on the right side, from fast hitch to touch control, I have tried it and end up setting
it so close to the solid mount that I don't use it. That connection will not typically be on a "C" touch control arm.
I'm of the opinion you don't need it.

(quoted from post at 19:16:01 07/11/11) IH Fan,

There is a leveling link that goes from the fast hitch to the touch control on the left side of the tractor. It allows you
to pitch the plow left to right. This is really cool when you start plowing on level ground, set the plow accordingly,
then when you drop the wheel in the furrow you adjust the plow again. Makes for a pretty job.

The front to back adjustment is on the right side, from fast hitch to touch control, I have tried it and end up setting
it so close to the solid mount that I don't use it. That connection will not typically be on a "C" touch control arm.
I'm of the opinion you don't need it.

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If you read my post, you will see I know all that.... I plowed with one for a few years... 1956 to 1960. The only thing I couldn't remember is where the tilt was pinned solid when the left link to the Touch Control was removed when using the planter, cultivator, etc. It's all we had to use from '56 to '59 when we added a second tractor, but still used the SC to plow some. However, I used the JD 60 and 3x14" as much as possible starting in '59 and Dad got to use (or got stuck with) the SC and 2x14".
I still say it would be cheaper and better to find a plow made for the C than try to add a F-H to the C. Dad always said the C mounted plow worked better, but I never used one, so can't say... I thought the F-H one worked okay.

My Bad. It pinned to the cast brake drum. At that point it had a
solid hole, no movement, or a slot for free floating.

As far as finding a C mounted plow, I guess it would depend on what part of the country your in. Fast
Hitch's and fast hitch plows are easy to come by around here,ie
Houston TX.
I rarely see "C" mounted plows. Last one I saw on craigslist the guy
wanted $750. It didn't stay listed long. I seriously doubt he got
anywhere close to that.

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I rarely see "C" mounted plows. Last one I saw on craigslist the guy
wanted $750. It didn't stay listed long. I seriously doubt he got
anywhere close to that.

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The folks farm was in NE Iowa and although not real common, you could find them there. When Mom left the farm in the late '90s, there was not much call for the smaller two row and two bottom equipment any more. Much of the stuff she had, including a like new McCormick 2 row planter were just left there because it didn't sell. She didn't have an auction, but advertized locally. Don't know what the people that bought the house and buildings w/40 acres did with what was left. She sold the rest of the land later. I know the C plow was still there a year before she moved, but did not notice it when we moved her, but wasn't looking for it either. I do know the planter was in the barn and at least one 2 row IH cultivator was there.
Also I remember there [u:e23506acf2]was a provision somewhere[/u:e23506acf2] for the tilt to float, and that we used with the 7' tandem Fast Hitch disk. The F-H was a handy gadget, but the trouble and expense Andrew is going to have for using that plow may not be worth it if he can find the proper plow and get his money back for the one he bought.

I was born In Belmond IA, raised in Denver IA, just north of
Waterloo and went to tech school in Calmar IA. Still have family in
Cedar Falls & Clarion.

Dad had several 8n Ford's, John Deere MT,A,B tractors are what I
grew up with. Neighbors has some Farmall H's & M's. I didn't know
the SC w FH existed till I saw one in TX

(quoted from post at 09:38:08 07/12/11) I was born In Belmond IA, raised in Denver IA, just north of
Waterloo and went to tech school in Calmar IA. Still have family in
Cedar Falls & Clarion.

Dad had several 8n Ford's, John Deere MT,A,B tractors are what I
grew up with. Neighbors has some Farmall H's & M's. I didn't know
the SC w FH existed till I saw one in TX

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Close... I was about 40 mi. east of you. Seems there were lots of F-H SCs and later models in our area. Dad got his Super C when he "down-sized" and started working off the farm 1956. It was a new "carry-over" model... had his choice at the time of this or a 200. I had an uncle about 5 miles from us that got a SC about '53 with F-H and he liked it, so that's what Dad wanted. Then in the fall of '58 when carpenter work slowed, He bought his 2nd JD 60 and 227 picker and took on custom picking. Then because he had the bigger tractor and wanted something for me to do, he rented a neighbor's farm and we "up-sized" again until I left for the service in '61. After '58 the JD did the "heavy lifting", plowing, disking, corn picking, but SC did planting, cutlivating, mowed, raked, hauled manure, pulled wagons/hayracks, etc.. They were the "hands down" handiest small rowcrop tractor made. Uncles, neighbors, etc. had JD MTs, Allis C/CAs, etc and the C/SCs were so much handier, there was no contest. Dad passed away in'84, but from '48 to '84, he was never without a C or SC... must have had at least 5 of them, but only the one with F-H. Mom sold the last C in about '98 before she moved to a retirement apartment. He also had an almost like new Farmall 460 w/F-H when he died, that Mom kept until she left the farm... bet it didn't have 1000 hours on it.
Played HS basketball against Calmar.

(quoted from post at 15:49:58 07/12/11) after thinking about this, one might make it work by installing the bottom workings of a fast hitch, and pinning it to a upper rod like on the 3 point conversions, and raising the whole thing with the frontrockshaft...however....the system would have to be in good shape to raise it.

Andy

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I think you would be putting a lot of stress on the Touch Control rockshaft. I suppose the leverage could be figured out to do it, but it's a 60+ year old tractor and it would need leverage help.
Haven't heard anything from Andrew as to how he planned to do it when he bought the Fast Hitch plow... maybe he has a Super C or 200 parts tractor with a Fast Hitch. Also I do not know if a 230 or 240 Fast Hitch will mount, but they do not use the Touch Control for tilt and pitch. I have an International 240U and have never quite figured it all out... lots different than the older ones and mine has the factory 3 point adaptor. I know it would not work at all on a C thru 230, and maybe not a Farmall 240.

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Ive been lookng for a fast hitch part that got lost years ago to my 53 super c. it's the iron rod that fits in the front draft tube on the right front of the hitch....its pinned to the rockshaft used for plowing. Ive looked dads old farm everywhere....it's just gone.


Andy

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That should not be a hard part to duplicate if you know someone that has one. If I remember correctly, it's just a solid rod with a couple of holes drilled through for the tube end and the other either "smashed" flat or machined flat and a hole drilled to fit in the right Touch Control arm. It's IH part # 518 144 R1, Rod, hitch link.