Fuel Sediment Bowl Blues

FarmallJon · Jun 18, 2011

My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

Seth Boyer · Jun 18, 2011

I've run into this same problem. Just use a pair of scissors and trim it back a little. Make sure the rim on the bowl doesn't have a small defect and you should be good to go.

Ludwig · Jun 18, 2011

I had to buy a replacement gasket for the one on my Super M. Now as I think of it Napa had the replacement bowl in stock. Had the better quality gasket too, I should have bought it in the first place...

old · Jun 18, 2011

You say rubber gasket some times they take some time to swell up from the gas to work well. I prefer the cork type gaskets plus if I can not find the sediment bowl like I want I look at more then one place most auto parts stores have them also

GordoSD · Jun 18, 2011

It's a pliars thing. TIGHTEN the bejesus out of the nut.

Zachary Hoyt · Jun 18, 2011

Our local independent tractor and mower shop has the cork gaskets for 50 cents and they work great, in my experience.
Zach

Anonymous-0 · Jun 18, 2011

The filter should set on top of the glass bowl in a gruve. Then put the gasket on top of that.Then put it up in the body of the filter and tighten it.

Mark-Ia · Jun 18, 2011

I did the same as Seth. Had to trim the screen to make it quit leaking.

NawlensGator · Jun 18, 2011

I keep spare screens and rubber gaskets I get from the local IH dealer. I put the screen on top of the gasket however and don't have problems.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 18, 2011

Had the same problem on my 1950 Farmall C. finely I used a permtex #2 on the gasket & the bowl

gene bender · Jun 18, 2011

Yes then warp the base so no gasket will seal how many do you want that have been tightened that way. You put the screen on top of the glass then athe rubber gasket and it will seal finger tight.But if you use the pliers you can sure warp the base so bad nothing can seal.

armand tatro · Jun 18, 2011

Spin the glass bowl as you tigthen it. Helps to seat the gasket I guess. Also works to stop oil filter canister leaks. Armand

GordoSD · Jun 18, 2011

I can't imagine a single wire loop around that bowl can warp the base. Never have warped one here. How about you Allan?

sflem849 · Jun 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 16:54:48 06/18/11) I can't imagine a single wire loop around that bowl can warp the base. Never have warped one here. How about you Allan?

A lot of them are warped. The single wire is the reason for that. Why would two points of contact be better than full contact? There are only two points pulling up on the bowl. You are asking for distortion of the bowl.

GordoSD · Jun 18, 2011

OK, I understand. The bowl is going to be distorted, like a bulge in the middle of the glass

I'll bet I could drive my Rsm 250 over that galss bowl and not break it.

Owen Aaland · Jun 19, 2011

The metal base is what gets warped. If the bail is overtightened the base will bend down as the gasket compresses more at the contact areas of the bail. Once it warps it is difficult to get a new gasket to seal properly. If the base is not warped a new gasket should not leak even if only tightened by hand.

rustyfarmall · Jun 19, 2011

(quoted from post at 07:27:02 06/18/11) My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

The first thing you did wrong was buying it from TSC, or any other farm supply type store. The second thing you did wrong was to buy one for a C instead of for an H or M. Very few of those TSC sediment bowl assemblies will actually STOP the flow of fuel when the valve is turned all the way off.

sflem849 · Jun 19, 2011

(quoted from post at 06:17:16 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 07:27:02 06/18/11) My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

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The first thing you did wrong was buying it from TSC, or any other farm supply type store. The second thing you did wrong was to buy one for a C instead of for an H or M. Very few of those TSC sediment bowl assemblies will actually STOP the flow of fuel when the valve is turned all the way off.

Aren't they Tisco just like you sell? What brand is a good one then?

rustyfarmall · Jun 19, 2011

(quoted from post at 06:47:47 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 06:17:16 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 07:27:02 06/18/11) My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

Click to expand...

The first thing you did wrong was buying it from TSC, or any other farm supply type store. The second thing you did wrong was to buy one for a C instead of for an H or M. Very few of those TSC sediment bowl assemblies will actually STOP the flow of fuel when the valve is turned all the way off.

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Aren't they Tisco just like you sell? What brand is a good one then?

Go to TSC, look at the sediment bowls, and see if you can find the "Tisco" name anywhere on the package. I get a few of my sediment bowls from Tisco. Most of them I get from A&I. I also inspect and test each one before I ship it out.

sflem849 · Jun 19, 2011

(quoted from post at 12:25:09 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 06:47:47 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 06:17:16 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 07:27:02 06/18/11) My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

Click to expand...

The first thing you did wrong was buying it from TSC, or any other farm supply type store. The second thing you did wrong was to buy one for a C instead of for an H or M. Very few of those TSC sediment bowl assemblies will actually STOP the flow of fuel when the valve is turned all the way off.

Click to expand...

Aren't they Tisco just like you sell? What brand is a good one then?

Click to expand...

Go to TSC, look at the sediment bowls, and see if you can find the "Tisco" name anywhere on the package. I get a few of my sediment bowls from Tisco. Most of them I get from A&I. I also inspect and test each one before I ship it out.

I thought all of their crap was Tisco. If not then who's stuff are they selling? For the record, I thought Farm and Fleet was the same way.

rustyfarmall · Jun 20, 2011

(quoted from post at 16:13:03 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 12:25:09 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 06:47:47 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 06:17:16 06/19/11)

(quoted from post at 07:27:02 06/18/11) My original sediment bowl filter on my '49 H was trashed, So I went to Tractor Supply to buy a replacement. All they had in stock was a sediment bowl filter for a "C". The body of the filter looked the same...same sized ports, but the glass bowl was shorter than the one on my H. Anyway, a bought it and installed it on my H. When I opened the pet cock, the bowl filled as it should, then fuel strted running down the outside of the bowl. Not gushing, just a slow drip. I took the bowl off, and I saw that the bronze screen was between the rubber gasket and the boddy of the filter. The only way I could get the filter to stop leaking was to remove the bronze screen altogether. After about five tries, I still can not stop te filter from leaking when I put the screen in above the gasket. What am I doing wrong here???

Click to expand...

The first thing you did wrong was buying it from TSC, or any other farm supply type store. The second thing you did wrong was to buy one for a C instead of for an H or M. Very few of those TSC sediment bowl assemblies will actually STOP the flow of fuel when the valve is turned all the way off.

Click to expand...

Aren't they Tisco just like you sell? What brand is a good one then?

Click to expand...

Go to TSC, look at the sediment bowls, and see if you can find the "Tisco" name anywhere on the package. I get a few of my sediment bowls from Tisco. Most of them I get from A&I. I also inspect and test each one before I ship it out.

Click to expand...

I thought all of their crap was Tisco. If not then who's stuff are they selling? For the record, I thought Farm and Fleet was the same way.

I honestly do not know the source used by TSC, Farm and Fleet, Orscheln's, and all those others, but they all get their stuff from the same place.

Just for the record, Tisco has cleaned up their act considerably and nearly everything they have now is of very good quality.

Did you know that Tisco is now the supplier to Case-IH for the Classic IH tractors?

sflem849 · Jun 20, 2011

I wasn't sure how that worked. I know my dealer will sell some of their stuff. I wasn't sure if that was an official thing or just filling a niche. They also sell some things from OEM. I am not a big fan because they put another 10% on top of OEM's high price.

I am a big fan of the Tisco wheel bearing nuts. They do a great job on worn spindles.

I thought that Farm and Fleet etc was selling Tisco because all of their packages were red and black just like Tiscos. When I looked at the tune up kit for my B I thought that had their name on it, but I'm not positive.

sflem849 · Jun 20, 2011

Do you sell tune up kits for the B? I am looking to do everything, including plugs and wires.

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