Weird Farmall

JohnG(TX) · Jun 16, 2011

Can anyone ID this Farmall. It appears to be a wide front Regular. The build date is proported to be 1943.

I guess the question would be more what's in common rather than what's different.

dej(Jed) · Jun 16, 2011

(quoted from post at 11:36:37 06/16/11) Can anyone ID this Farmall. It appears to be a wide front Regular. The build date is proported to be 1943.

I guess the question would be more what's in common rather than what's different.

I would say it is a {johnny cash farmall} They built it one piece at a time.That was never built by IH in 1943. Someone has cobbled a mismatch of parts to creat that creature.

dej(Jed) · Jun 16, 2011

Sorry I didn't look at all of the pics. That is a Farmall Regular from the looks of it. I don't see a hydraulic pump, so the 3 point is a mystery.
Other than that it looks pretty complete.

JohnG(TX) · Jun 16, 2011

Close, but Nope! This tractor was indeed built in a factory. And, not from spare parts.

Janicholson · Jun 16, 2011

A guess would be German built tractor with a F series engine and components. Very interesting Jim

Red Dave · Jun 16, 2011

Russian Built knock off of a Farmall Regular

mkirsch · Jun 16, 2011

(quoted from post at 12:17:28 06/16/11) Close, but Nope! This tractor was indeed built in a factory. And, not from spare parts.

You don't know what it is, but you can say with authority what it is NOT???

How's that work?

JohnG(TX) · Jun 16, 2011

DING-DING-DING

We have a winner.

This particular tractor is for sale in Poland. It is a Russian copy.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 16, 2011

How do you know it wasn't made from parts of different tractors? The 3pt. had to be home made and probably added much later. It would have been patented and you know Ferguson would have sued if another manufacturer copied it in 1943. Maybe someone was trying to pull a fast one?

big fred · Jun 16, 2011

The Cyrillic text on the starboard side of the radiator is a giveaway.

JohnG(TX) · Jun 16, 2011

Yep. So, I guess technically, it isn't a Farmall. Maybe a Farmallovich? Or Farmallov?

Nebraska Cowman · Jun 16, 2011

Very interesting John. I'd never seen one like that.
But here is the same thing in a John Deere Acopied
in Sweden. It has a rockshaft and three point. 3
point caught on in Europe before it did here
Swedish knock off

Nick from Indy · Jun 16, 2011

Thats one of the best looking Russian Regular
I have seen what website is it on.

JohnG(TX) · Jun 17, 2011

Polish For-Sale website:
http://weteranszos.pl/gielda/1518-

Jim Becker · Jun 17, 2011

With the relatively low rear wheels and short knees on the front axle, it apears to be a Regular Utility. IH should have copied the Russians sooner.

Looks like it is currently in Lithuania.

GRAPE-DRANK · Jun 17, 2011

(quoted from post at 11:36:37 06/16/11) Can anyone ID this Farmall. It appears to be a wide front Regular. The build date is proported to be 1943.

I didn't think International Harvester made tractors in 1943. I know you can buy an International Harvester rifle that could have been made in 1943.

mkirsch · Jun 17, 2011

Ferguson would have sued if another manufacturer copied it in 1943.

Yeah, good luck suing the Soviet Union in 1943.

The only reason we were talking to the Soviets in 1943 was because they were "the enemy of my enemy" and brought a lot of cannon fodder to the party.

Patent law is only valid in the country in which the patent was filed. It is up to other countries whether or not they choose to acknowledge patents from other nations. Obviously the Soviets weren't going to say, "Oh dat's under da protection of American patent. We will not be copyink dat."

The Soviets made a bolt-for-bolt copy of the B29, and flew fleets of them for years after WWII.

GordoSD · Jun 17, 2011

Russian 8T3.

Owen Aaland · Jun 17, 2011

Tractor production was limited in 1943 but it still continued. About 25,000 H model tractors were built along with about 7400 model M. The sales of tractors and farm equipment was rationed during the war. If you had a family member serving in the armed forces you could get bumped up the list. Tractors replacing horses freed up both men and horses for the war effort.

oldtanker · Jun 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 19:46:30 06/17/11) Tractor production was limited in 1943 but it still continued. About 25,000 H model tractors were built along with about 7400 model M. The sales of tractors and farm equipment was rationed during the war. If you had a family member serving in the armed forces you could get bumped up the list. Tractors replacing horses freed up both men and horses for the war effort.

Actually it freed up men and land. The last mounted unit in the Army ate their horses on the Bataan. From that point on the US Army was "moterized" whit a very few exceptions. At the time they figured that it took about 25 acres to keep one horse. Plus the time it took to put up feed for that horse. Kinda like gas rationing. We had all the gas we needed and then some. What we didn't have was rubber. So slow down everyone to a national 30 MPH speed limit to make driving slower than taking the train, convince people that the men fighting the war needed all that fuel and rubber and people put up with it as their patriotic duty.

Interestingly enough.....up here there are old threshing machines all over the place. I read an article about that a few years ago. Basically they said that the production lines that had just been started in 40/41 to build combines were converted to war production. They still made threshing machines at the time too during the cross over years. During the 1945 harvest season everyone thought that we were going to have to invade Japan. The custom thrasher crews finished up in the north country right after we dropped the bombs. They abandoned their machiens here when they finished because they knew that combines would be available for the next season after Japan surrendeded.

Rick

Owen Aaland · Jun 18, 2011

The last charge using horses was in Italy in April 1945. Bataan was the last cavalry charge but horses continued to be used on a limited basis elsewhere, mainly as pack animals.

Mike Lucas · Jun 20, 2011

the writing on the radiator translates "Universal" if that helps.

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