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Screwed again by Marty2374

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Wardner

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Has anybody ever seen a bent Fast Hitch Tel-a-Depth cylinder?

Would anyone here ship an extended cylinder? That image represents exactly how I received the cylinder. It has not been stroked in many years.

Wouldn't even a 10 year old know that something wasn't right with a quick glance?

That's my picture. The auction picture was so poor that the bent rod was not evident or discernible. I did win two of his auctions that I am happy with.

Looks like I will have to open a Buyer Protection claim against Marty. BTW, he just listed another 400 today. Think that makes seven 400-450's in less than two years. I was thinking I might not need anything on this latest series of auctions.
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Before you file a claim, I assume you have tried to resolve this directly? I have bought many things, mostly photo equipment, off eBay and only had one complaint. She did not realize there was a problem, re-embursed my money+ shipping both ways. We both left favorable feedback.
In this case, I agree it should have been obvious, but maybe some kid packed and shipped it for him.
 

I've never had an issue with Marty2374, but that is because I've never bought anything from him. His photos are so poor that most of the time I'm not real sure just what it is he's trying to sell. He needs to be banned from ebay.
 
That's seven out of approximately 5000 completed auctions over six months. You will never get 100% when selling a high volume of used parts.
 
Yes, I wrote Marty before I started this thread. I demanded full compensation including shipping. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow, I will file a claim.
 
He is a fast shipper and usually has what I need at a low price. I have probably bought a half-dozen cylinders from him. All but one were serviceable. I only want the IH tie-rod type. Most times his parts are repairable such as broken bolts that have to be extracted or a destroyed distributer cap when all I needed was the tach drive from the distributer assembly. There have been times when I have returned stuff but it is a cost of doing business with him.
 
As for the photos, I have told him twice he needs better pictures. I even had to return one item due to a poor picture and description. There isn't much he can do about the descriptions because he doesn't know any better. He needs to take an instructional course in Photography or sub it out.
 
Bad deal. I'd say he intentionally hid the damage with the hydraulic hoses. It says he is in Bad Axe, Michigan. It was probably Good Axe before he got there! Thanks for the warning on him also.
 
(quoted from post at 17:55:20 06/02/11) Shirly, you mean a box of chocolates.
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That was a good movie! ..., "... and don't call me Shirly." (from another funny movie)
 
well the original ad does say all parts sold are in usable condition.in my opinion its not usable as is. i have bought a few things from him and have had no problems.
 
Heck,

For only $46, I'd be yanking that thing out of there and straighten it.

They are made from real soft metal and are very easy to bend back again.

Allan
 
Ebay claims are great! I bought a used cell phone that wouldn't charge. Seller wouldn't take a return and he listed it as in perfect working condition. Ebay called within a couple hours and gave me my money back =)
 
Ya, I doubt if any seller has ever come out on top of a claim settlement. Unless they sweep out all the credits in their account and swear off eBay for the rest of their life, they will get debited.

It appears that eBay has more sellers than buyers and they are not going to shove the buyers under the bus.
 
The only bad feature about the IH tie-rod cylinder with Siamese ports is they need a $55-$65 repair kit every time they are worked on.

I suppose you may be talking about fully extending the rod and putting it into a press without disassembly. I may consider that procedure after looking at my options. One of those options is to install a new rod and eyelet that I have in stock. The repair kit would have to be ordered.

Anyone have a cheap source for the 3.5" x 8" kit?
 
Yea, I bought a used Saginaw 3 point from him once. It was as described. But to avoid the shipping, I asked if I could come pick it up before I bid. He said sure, no problem. I asked several times for directions, an address, ect to find him. He kept providing sketchy directions. My trip was nearing, and he finally gave me his phone number. I said I would call him when I got to town. I told him the date and time I would be there. This was before cell phones were very popular. So I stopped at a gas station when I got to town to call him. Of course he wasn't available. We waited around for a couple hours kept trying to call him. Finally got him. Then he was like, well I suppose I could meet you there. He was a d&^% the whole time I was there. He had a loader tractor there, and said I would have to load it myself. I asked about the loader and he said it didn't run. I was standing near it and the block was still warm from earlier in the day. What an a$$. I finally got it broke down enough to manage by hand and loaded it up and got the heck out of there. Swore to never ever buy from him again.
 
I've seen him. Sells every little piece separate, nothing as an assembly.
"Good XXXXX engine from XXXX tractor ran when disassembled!!!"

And you look at the picture, and it's been stripped down, no manifolds, ignition, injection pump, etc.

That's why I never bid one anything he has. If it's a good running engine, and it hasn't been stripped, I might be more interested in it.
 
I never eat chocolates, and don't call me Shirley.

Sometimes you gotta do business with the devil if he's the only one with the parts you need. I have the same issue with my old chainsaws. The guy ships fast, is reasonably priced, and has what I need, but God help you if there's a problem. He's nowhere to be found. The only thing that gets his attention is the ebay dispute system. As soon as I filed a dispute, he sent me the missing gasket.

Wardner, you must have a hydraulic press bolted on to a tractor around there somewhere. If you can otherwise get the cylinder freed up straightening that shaft should be cake.
 
Marty refunded the $46.00 plus $5.00 shipping via PayPal. Shipping on the item was $15.00 so I am still screwed out of $10. Alot more if he demands return of the cylinder which is probably unlikely. I guess we should consider the $10 as a core charge.

I just ordered a repair kit from Baum Hydraulics for $27.00. I will rebuild the cylinder with an extra rod that I have in stock.
 
Thanks for the tip on Baum. Their price is less than half of IH. We will have to see if the kit is complete. I can compare it to a kit 2.5" x 8" that I bought several weeks ago from Bermuda Ken at C&G.
 
Wardner...What was the title of your thread??? "SCREWED AGAIN BY MARTY2374"! the key word here is "AGAIN"! So you do get screwed again, and you come on here and admit it?? "Fool me once...
 

The FH cylinder on my 560 has a tweak in the rod... Cycles fine, doesn't leak down and has been run this way for God only knows how long... Hook her up see if she'll cycle without binding...
 
Randy,

eBay will protect their buyers. I don't have to fear, or be damaged by, any unscrupulous seller. I will accept the $10 core charge and $27 repair kit charge. Those charges plus my labor and piston rod will give me a rebuilt - good as new - cylinder.

I could wait a week or several months for another cylinder. Price for a serviceable cylinder may be more or less the same but its condition will not be any better.

Marty has another cylinder auction in five days. Another lousy picture but the rod may have rust on it. I won't be bidding it. Doubt if anyone else will either.
 
I also used the Baumhydraulics kit, and it had all the o-rings and backer rings. Had a modern rubber seal instead of the felt wiper.
 
Gotta keep the stubs on those money orders. They can be scanned to see if they have been paid.

Marty told me he has recently been in the hospital. That is why his help sent out the distressed cylinder. Personally, I think he knew it was bad and that is why he quickly refunded the money. You have to wonder what he wears for personal protection.

Marty is annoying but he is essentially a metal scrapper. Most of those guys would not go to the trouble of breaking down a tractor and marketing the parts. There is alot of work in disassembling, photographing, running an eBay account, and shipping.
 
so, I sent a MO....big mistake.

claimed he never got it...
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If it was a postal MO and you still have the receipt, ask the post office what happened to it. If it was never cashed, you might be able to get a refund. If he cashed it then claimed he didn't get it, it is postal fraud. PO takes that very seriously.
 
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so, I sent a MO....big mistake.

claimed he never got it...
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If it was a postal MO and you still have the receipt, ask the post office what happened to it. If it was never cashed, you might be able to get a refund. If he cashed it then claimed he didn't get it, it is postal fraud. PO takes that very seriously.
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Can't get your money back on a postal MO. Tried it...I don't remember what I bought anymore but the morons lost it for a couple weeks and I tried to get my money back and try again. They said sorry, but we can't do that. I said, but it was YOUR money order and YOU were the ones that lost it in the mail. They said I should have got delivery confirmation. Then I said, so you would refund it if I had delivery confirmation? They said, no but you would know if it go there.
That's your government...
 
OK, you can't get your money back. They will issue a replacement. Seems like about the same thing.
Replacement of Lost or Stolen Money Orders
To replace a lost or stolen money order, a customer will need to fill our Form 6401 at a Post office and pay a fee. After the USPS completes a payment inquiry on the status of the money order, a replacement can be issued.
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The fee is about $5.
http://www.usps.com/missingmoneyorders/
 
(quoted from post at 20:49:56 06/05/11) OK, you can't get your money back. They will issue a replacement. Seems like about the same thing.
Replacement of Lost or Stolen Money Orders
To replace a lost or stolen money order, a customer will need to fill our Form 6401 at a Post office and pay a fee. After the USPS completes a payment inquiry on the status of the money order, a replacement can be issued.
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The fee is about $5.
http://www.usps.com/missingmoneyorders/
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I wish the Clinton post office was still in operation. I could show those guys that it CAN be done. They told me there was no way to know if it was cashed already so there was no way to refund it. I found it hard to believe at the time and swore them off ever since. (That was around 5 years ago)
 
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