49 W6 spindle support bearing

does anybody know what the manufacture number is of this bearing so I can acquire some new ones. Due to a large loader being mounted on the tractor the swivel balls have implanted them selves in one location

(quoted from post at 18:01:39 05/26/11) does anybody know what the manufacture number is of this bearing so I can acquire some new ones. Due to a large loader being mounted on the tractor the swivel balls have implanted them selves in one location

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Are you talking about the spindle lower thrust bearing?

yes. the lower bearing on the front axle where the axle rests on the steering/front wheel spindle

(quoted from post at 07:16:30 05/27/11) yes. the lower bearing on the front axle where the axle rests on the steering/front wheel spindle

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I tried to look it up on the Case-IH webparts site, but apparently Case-IH has forgotten they ever built such a tractor.

yea if they had them they would be tripple the price of te tractor.

(quoted from post at 12:45:39 05/27/11) yea if they had them they would be tripple the price of te tractor.

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I went to the Case-IH site only to find the part number, but the W6 is not listed. I can get the spindle thrust bearing to fit a Farmall M wide front for about $10, but I can't find if it will fit the W6.

CIH, in all of their lack of infinite wisdom, failed to put any of the W/O/I tractors during the letter-series era into their computerized parts books. I'm pretty sure that the W-400, W-450, W-350, 600, and 650's, and possibly more aren't either.

Probably 1 in 20 CIH dealers have a paper W-6 parts book laying around. Probably 1 in 5 have anyone with any knowledge of a W-6 tractor ever existing.

If I'm reading my W-6 parts book (TC-33B, dated 5/9/49) correctly, there is:

1 bushing in the top of each spindle, 55 236 D (shows up NLA and no sub numbers at Messicks website), no sub number in paper superceded parts book (4-1984)

1 outer race in each spindle (goes toward the top, inserted from the bottom of the spindle in the picture) (for serial numbers 501-2636), 55 414 D (NLA)
1 outer race in each spindle (goes toward the top, inserted from the bottom of the spindle in the picture) (for serial numbers 2637 up), 59 836 D (shows up as $127 at Messicks)
(Book tells you for 55 414 D to order 59 836 D, so the early race subs to the later one anyway.)

20 pivot balls per spindle, D 2615 (book says same as 1110 C) (both show up as NLA at Messicks). Both D 2615 "ball" and 1110 C "ball" sub to 16 012 R1 in my 1984 superceded parts book. 16 012 R1 is listed as a "3/8 inch grade 2 chrome steel ball" (came 50 to a pkg.), (and is also NLA on Messicks site) in IMP-1 parts book dated 12/1968. "Grade 2" was +/- .00005 of any specified diameter. "Grade 1", which was +/- .000025 of any specified diameter doesn't have a 3/8 inch option listed in the IMP-1 book, but in the paper superceded parts book 16 012 R1 "ball" subs to 17 012 R1 "ball" which judging by other numbers in the IMP-1 book, could very well be a "grade 1". 17 012 R1 "ball" subs to 87016924 "ball" at Messicks, and is listed at $2.23. 87016924 replaces a bunch of old numbers, but 16 012 R1, D 2615, and 1110 C aren't on that list at Messick's website.

1 inner race per spindle, (picture shows it at the bottom of the spindle), 55 413 D (shows up as a $73 "flange" at Messicks)

and 1 felt washer per spindle at the very bottom, 55 412 D ($8 at Messicks)


The balls should be available from an industrial or bearing supply house if you have a measurement. You may have to buy 50 or 100 at a time, though.

The "Parts Depot" may have parts available that are NLA from CIH, and may have parts available that may retail cheaper than the bearing race prices from Messick's website above.

Just because a part shows up with a price at Messick's website doesn't guarantee it's current availability in any way, shape, or form.

None of the races, or the balls themselves show up in my bearing parts catalogs (dated 3/1958 and 10/1976). IH could have manucactured these races themselves.

Some people's idea of "inner" and "outer" races may be different than the way IH used them here. They confused me a bit at first, and that's why I tried to explain them the way I did.

AG

I was also going to say that my book doesn't show a "bearing assembly" with the races and balls all listed under one part number for the spindle available.

The bushing and outer race were included when purchasing the axle beam, though.

AG

I just finished pulling the spindles out of a W9 and there were groves in the race as well. Makes me wonder if it"s common to the W series tractors.

Charles

the axle number is 59829 D. the number on the spindle is 55238.DD. the part that goes into the bottom of the axle is 3 3/16 in dia, 1/2 in high &the inside dia of the centre hole is 1 13/16. the balls are 3/8 dia. the part that rest on the spindle is 3 3/16 in dia and has a centre hole of 1 11/16.

(quoted from post at 19:32:37 05/27/11) CIH, in all of their lack of infinite wisdom, failed to put any of the W/O/I tractors during the letter-series era into their computerized parts books. I'm pretty sure that the W-400, W-450, W-350, 600, and 650's, and possibly more aren't either.

Probably 1 in 20 CIH dealers have a paper W-6 parts book laying around. Probably 1 in 5 have anyone with any knowledge of a W-6 tractor ever existing.
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I asked my dealer (Triebold's in Whitewater, WI) and they said the W/O/I tractors would probably never be online because there is such a little demand for the info. They have been putting things online based on popularity and age. That would be why Ms were on before SMs and SMs before SMTAs etc.

My dealer does have all the parts diagrams available on microfiche though. They get a little grumpy because they are used to me calling up with a list of part numbers. When it comes to the "not online" tractors they have to get the microfiche and look it up themselves. It is an extra pain because all the subs are trickier to find.

(quoted from post at 17:38:25 05/29/11) I asked my dealer (Triebold's in Whitewater, WI) and they said the W/O/I tractors would probably never be online because there is such a little demand for the info. They have been putting things online based on popularity and age.

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I would agree with that to some extent. It does make me wonder why several things are in the computer system and some are not. I may be wrong, but I don't see a lot of parts demand for several of the J. I. Case combines, IH 429 corn heads, or 816 mower conditioner parts anymore, either. They are in the computer system. Many are still out there and in service yet, but none bring C-IH millions of part sales each year.

I would also say that not much is available from C-IH for the W/O/I tractors that isn't shared with their row-crop brothers. Many tractor owners and counter guys don't know that some parts are shared between an M and a W-6, though.

A bunch of stuff is available from the Parts Depot and DPNI/Vintage Parts for tractors and equipment that isn't "online" (and for machinery that is "online"). There are several dealers that have parts on the shelves that have been there for 30+ years, too. Many dealers have been stuck with non-retrurnable parts when someone orders something and doesn't pick it up, and those parts are still looking for a home. The dealer computer system can locate these, too.

My dealer does have all the parts diagrams available on microfiche though. They get a little grumpy because they are used to me calling up with a list of part numbers. When it comes to the "not online" tractors they have to get the microfiche and look it up themselves. It is an extra pain because all the subs are trickier to find.

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From what I'm seeing, most dealers now view fiche machines as wasted counter space. Some don't have them on the counter, they might be tucked in the corner of an office, some may not have them at all. The dealer I go to the most has one left that works. Their plow bottoms, MF grain drill, bearing substitution, and a couple of other cards are so worn out that they are getting hard to read. They have many old parts books at the counter, too. They have many customers that use 40+ year old equipment and they are more than happy to try to the best of their ability to locate parts for them. If C-IH doesn't have them, they try to find them somewhere else.

I have stacks of parts books for most of the farm equipment I own and then some. Most people do not. Most of the time I do try to have part numbers for everything when I go in.

AG