IHC 2001 Loader vs. Great Bend Loader

I've posted this in the implement forum but thought I may get other feedback from the IHC experts.

I have two loaders.
One is is a IHC 2001 with a trip bucket. The lift cylinders measure 2.0" dia on the push rod and 2.8" dia on the OD of the cylinder walls. It has oneway cylinders.
The other loader is a Great Bend with two way lift cylinders and a hydraulic bucket (large single cyl). The lift cylinders measure 1.5" dia on the push rod and 2.9" dia on the OD of the cylinder walls.
Cylinders are the same length.
My question is are either of these cylinders harder than the other to get seals/parts for? Also which one would be the stronger? The IHC with 2.0" dia push rods look some much heavier, but I keep thinking it would be far better to have down pressure with two way cyl. I was going to mount the IHC 2001 on a 756 Farmall, so I think the lift speed should be much better than some of the older Farmalls. Would the cylinders lift any differently? I was also going to mount the bucket and cyl on the same tractor. I know the loader frames are the same and the Great Bend is mounted on a Moline 302 Super. I would like to keep the loader with the best parts availability and better speed/strength. I don't know how badly I would need down pressure on the loader.
What would you do?
Thanks,
Loren

If the Great Bend is a "pipe" loader, avoid it like the plague.

Otherwise, everything else being equal, the loader with the hydraulic bucket and down pressure is the better choice.

It is not a pipe loader. Looks just like the IHC 2001. I'd like to get some options of the larger dia cylinder push rods.

Thanks,

I should say "opinions" of the larger cylinder pushrod size. 2" vs 1.5" -Do you think the seals/repair parts may be the same with the different shaft sizes as the cylinder OD is about the same?

I personally would take the GB loader over the IHC. The only problem I see is the one cylinder on the bucket. It will work fine, but you would have a lot more power to the bucket with two cylinders. I've used them both and would prefer two cylinders on the bucket, regardless of the brand.

I have a 2001 loader. It has down pressure.

The cylinders on mine are mounted with the rod sticking out the bottom, if yours are mounted that way, I don't think there would be a blue bean difference in the lifting power between those two O.D.'s ( I guess it's the ID's that really count )

Couple things I'm not crazy about mine in that the loader covers up much of the access to the engine, It only has about a 3 foot wide trip bucket.
I wish it had a cylinder on the bucket and the bucket was as wide as the wheels.

As far as which seals would be easier to get... I ain't got a clue

Both loaders have the rods out the bottom of the cylinder. It also seems to not have any vent holes or a place to tap into to add down pressure if I choose to use the heavier built oneway cyl, may still be able to be done. I have a 3ft bucket w/7ft snow bucket and another 5ft bucket, so the bucket is no problem. I know what you mean about poor access to the engine.

Thanks for the help-

Brochure on IH 2001 loader shows single acting cylinder has 2,600 lbs maximum breakout force and 1,350 lbs lift capacity. Double acting cylinders have 4,000 lbs maximum breakout force and 2,000 lbs lift capacity.
As for which I would want, I would consider this: A loader with single acting cylinders and trip bucket are obsolete , they were designed 60 years ago to mainly load manure. They were an improvement over the pitch fork. Double acting ( down pressure ) combined with hydraulic dump cylinders on the bucket make the loader capable of doing many more things than just lifting and dumping. Combining down force and bucket tilt, one can dig and back drag with a loader bucket. Hydraulic tilt allows precise control of forks for pallets, hay bales, logs ,etc.
You say that the frame for the 2001 and the Great Bend are the same. I read or heard that years ago Great Bend built loaders for IH ( I can't say for sure that it is true ). I'd like to see a picture of the Great Bend loader on that Moline. Could you post it or send me one ?
Your Case/IH dealer definitely can get loader cylinder seals for IH loaders. And, IF the GB loader is identical to the IH, you just need to tell him you need seals for double acting lift cylinders for a 2001 or a 2000 IH loader.

The seal repair kit for single and double acting cylinders are not the same. IH dealer can get kit for either though.

Thanks for your help. I've not mastered adding photos here yet but will try to send you something or post a picture in the tractor photos.

The GB Loaders were purchased by Bush Hog about 8 or 10 years ago. They closed the plant here in town and moved it to Ky or Tenn I think. You might go look at their web site. If you can not find anything, let me know as I have the parts phone number at work. I get about one call a month looking for them.

The smaller diameter cylinders will move faster with the same PSI/GPM of hydraulic supply. But the larger cylinders will lift more.

The cylinders are probably pretty close to the same bore diameter, which is the one that counts, and they are probably around 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 inch. So that pretty well negates any speed/capacity differential. The two-way may be rated for more PSI, though.

I'd go with the 2-way lift cylinders and hydraulic bucket. If the single bucket cylinder is large enough it won't lose any capacity vs having two bucket cylinders.