Hand Cranking Super C

Albo5000

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I have a 53 Super C and was curious if...

A- It came standard equipped with hand crank ability

and

B- Can I use a different style crank than just the Super C style.

Follow up to B- If yes, than which ones?

Thanks in advance
 
(quoted from post at 17:54:54 04/18/11) I have a 53 Super C and was curious if...

A- It came standard equipped with hand crank ability

and

B- Can I use a different style crank than just the Super C style.

Follow up to B- If yes, than which ones?

Thanks in advance

Couldn't tell you on the hand crank styles, but I'd assume A, B, C, and supers are all the same. I hand crank my Super C from time to time, either because of a dead battery, or just for fun. All you should have to do is slide the crank in and go to town, just be careful. You can get hurt easy. I always pull UP on the crank with my 4 fingers, so that if it kicks back it just yanks the crank out of my hand. I start with the crank about a hair passed the 6oclock position, pull up and let go by the 10 oclock position. I have a video of my GF hand cranking it for reference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY51Zu3KzLc
 
Faster346- Can you take a picture of your Super C's hand Crank and post? specifically the end that goes into the engine?

Thanks
 
Why are you so concerned about alternatives? Super C hand cranks are as common as used car tires.

Even if you buy a reproduction from Steiners or OEM, they're not that expensive.
 
Only if it is timed wrong. Or if you are trying to spin it. When it is bitter cold I will hand crank mine so the 6 volts can fire the coil with full voltage.
 
I am not concerned about alternatives, my SC runs on 6 volts right now and starts after only about two or three cranks. I actually watched a few videos on youtube of people (or their girlfriends) hand cranking their tractors and it made me interested in seeing how well mine would handle. The last thing I want to do however is use the wrong tool for the job and mess up my tractor or more importantly myself (I enjoy having two arms).

Also, how does the crank not keep spinning with the engine once started?


If anyone has a detailed picture they are willing to throw up on the post I would be more than appreciative of this. Thanks in advance
 
(quoted from post at 07:43:19 04/19/11) I am not concerned about alternatives, my SC runs on 6 volts right now and starts after only about two or three cranks. I actually watched a few videos on youtube of people (or their girlfriends) hand cranking their tractors and it made me interested in seeing how well mine would handle. The last thing I want to do however is use the wrong tool for the job and mess up my tractor or more importantly myself (I enjoy having two arms).

Also, how does the crank not keep spinning with the engine once started?


If anyone has a detailed picture they are willing to throw up on the post I would be more than appreciative of this. Thanks in advance

I'll run out back before work and grab a few pictures of the Super C's hand crank for you.
 
(quoted from post at 00:43:52 04/19/11)
(quoted from post at 21:19:55 04/18/11)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY51Zu3KzLc
ood way to break your thumb.

No. You can't break it when it's not wrapped around the handle. :?:
Exactly my point. She had her thumb wrapped around the handle. She was also standing too close, in the potential path of the crank, good way to break a rib.

First pull on crank.
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Just before it started.
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Proper grip, from a manual.
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Anyone notice the nifty grill protector or winter radiator cover on there. Little tabs to slide under the grill bolts. Anyone ever seen one of those?
 
When I first bought my Super C the whole charging system was just a mess and I hand cranked it for about the first year. It is very simple but look real close at the photos Jim Becker posted and note your thrumb SHOULD NOT be around the handle. My SC was very easy to start and usually only required a crank or two before it started. Some people crank one pull with the switch off to prime the engine and the next pull with the switch on to start on second pull. Key is having it running very well and timed correctly. The end of the crankshaft where the crank is inserted is shaped in a manner that it pushes the crank out of the tractor a little bit to disengage it so it doesn't keep spinning around when tractor starts. Start with the crank in the 6 o'clock position and give a quick pull up on the crank and don't try and spin the crank as that is where trouble begins and is not needed. Being on the end of a spinning crank is not the place to show off your manly atributes, Hal.
 
GordoSD,
If you are looking at illust 15, that is of a Cub not a SC, those tabs hold the grill on and I think the winter front you are referring to is the mesh grill on a Cub.
 
(quoted from post at 03:52:10 04/19/11) Faster346- Can you take a picture of your Super C's hand Crank and post? specifically the end that goes into the engine?

Thanks

I actually did you one better, I took a video of how [b:02e1746164][u:02e1746164]I[/u:02e1746164][/b:02e1746164] like to hand crank my tractor. I know as mentioned above, the PROPER way is to have the thumb [b:02e1746164]BEHIND [/b:02e1746164]the crank, but to me, having tried that way, I just do not feel as comfortable doing it that way. I have my thumb in front of the crank (like Brandy did when she started it, as noted in pictures above) but [b:02e1746164]NOT [/b:02e1746164]wrapped around the crank or closed, but EXTENDED so if the tractor did for some reason kick back (timing is retarded, and it never has before) it would just yank out of my hand not hurting anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XULGofPO7cc

Again, I'm not saying the above video is the correct way of doing it, it's just the way that I personally feel most comfortable and safest doing it. If you want any other pictures, just let me know!
 
Faster346-

Thanks so much for that. I actually gave up on trying to find a used hand crank and all my barns here are over packed with junk that I couldn't find any cranks floating around, I ended up ordering a new OEM crank off the internet. The video was awesome and I definitely wont have any questions when I get mine on how to use it. I appreciate the extra effort you went thru (and cold weather) to answer my question.
 
(quoted from post at 17:14:39 04/19/11) Faster346-

Thanks so much for that. I actually gave up on trying to find a used hand crank and all my barns here are over packed with junk that I couldn't find any cranks floating around, I ended up ordering a new OEM crank off the internet. The video was awesome and I definitely wont have any questions when I get mine on how to use it. I appreciate the extra effort you went thru (and cold weather) to answer my question.

No problem. I'm sure the correct police will still complain about my thumb, but honestly try it the "right" way as illustrated on the first page, and if it's comfortable for you that way, then rock on. I just couldn't get the hang of doing it that way. My way fits me best, and I have never had any problems doing it like that. You should probably get some pictures or video of your SC! :lol:
 
(quoted from post at 17:19:29 04/19/11)
No problem. I'm sure the correct police will still complain about my thumb, but honestly try it the "right" way as illustrated on the first page, and if it's comfortable for you that way, then rock on. I just couldn't get the hang of doing it that way. My way fits me best, and I have never had any problems doing it like that. You should probably get some pictures or video of your SC! :lol:

I just bought her three weeks ago from my landlord who's uncle was the original owner so I feel fortunate that most of the history on her is known. She looks like she hit some trees in her life but it only took two weeks of tinkering and replacing to get her started.

Let me know if you have good advice or want to see more if it would help you identify something and you feel like sharing your wealth of knowledge.

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That's a nice honest looking old tractor. I bet it's loud as heck with that exhaust setup like that lol. You have a Fast Hitch on that tractor, for that I envy you. My Super C does not have one, wish it did. What are your plans for it? Use it the way it is? Restore it? Never really could get into the wide fronts on the Super C's myself, but from what I read they're actually pretty desirable.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNEX58hxhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb2VsxZ29E8


I eventually want to get it looking like yours to be honest. For now I want to get it running like new and then the body work will happen. I guess I will be painting as I remove and replace parts but I do want to get it steam cleaned so I can get rid of most of the grease.

I already started basic tune-ups and each week I am allowing myself to spend more and more on parts. I am going to get a new exhaust manifold soon because the current one has a ton of rust going on and the muffler pipe has a 90 degree pipe rusted in place. Not sure how i am going to remove the whole thing yet (PB Blaster??) but I know I want a straight vertical muffler with rain cap. Your video actually made me want to paint my muffler and radiator cap black, that looks sleek.

I am on the fence about keeping it wide front or not. If i can convert it back to narrow without additional parts I may try it to see how I like it. I used to operate an M with a wide front and an H with a narrow and I liked the wide on the M more but being a smaller tractor I am unsure right now what I want in the long run.

I plan on using it at our orchard for hay rides up the mountain (for pick your own) and also we do a haunted hayride every October that I want her to pull for. Other various farm applications will follow im sure.
 
(quoted from post at 17:50:03 04/19/11) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNEX58hxhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb2VsxZ29E8


I eventually want to get it looking like yours to be honest. For now I want to get it running like new and then the body work will happen. I guess I will be painting as I remove and replace parts but I do want to get it steam cleaned so I can get rid of most of the grease.

I already started basic tune-ups and each week I am allowing myself to spend more and more on parts. I am going to get a new exhaust manifold soon because the current one has a ton of rust going on and the muffler pipe has a 90 degree pipe rusted in place. Not sure how i am going to remove the whole thing yet (PB Blaster??) but I know I want a straight vertical muffler with rain cap. Your video actually made me want to paint my muffler and radiator cap black, that looks sleek.

I am on the fence about keeping it wide front or not. If i can convert it back to narrow without additional parts I may try it to see how I like it. I used to operate an M with a wide front and an H with a narrow and I liked the wide on the M more but being a smaller tractor I am unsure right now what I want in the long run.

I plan on using it at our orchard for hay rides up the mountain (for pick your own) and also we do a haunted hayride every October that I want her to pull for. Other various farm applications will follow im sure.

Nice videos! I have a Farmall C (one video of it on my channel) that I've been restoring over the last year. My Super C is a 10 footer. It doesn't look bad in pictures or videos, but up close it's faded and greasy. It has a dealer repaint from 20 years ago. I had to replace the manifold on the Super C when I got it as well. The muffler is not a Stanly, but I'm not sure what it is. It's much quieter than the Stanly muffler I put on my C when I repainted it though, so I wanted to keep it. It was all rusty, and I took it to work and painted it, but I wasn't happy with how the silver was coming out, so I said F it and grabbed some BBQ Black paint from the shelf and sprayed it, and honestly really like the look. It grew on me a lot, and now I did the muffler on my M and H the same way. Kind of gives it a different look aside from every other Farmall, and like I said it looks kinda neat IMO.

Wide front versus narrow..if you lived closer I'd say come drive the Super C lol. I have driven one wide front tractor in my life (an H) and I hated it with a passion. I like my NF H and M much better. I can tell you that the C/Super C is in a class of its own with the narrow front though. It can out turn my H or M in a heartbeat. It turns on a dime with the narrow front, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Sounds like you're going to be using your SC for exactly what I use mine for, which I use for misc stuff. I pull the wood trailer with it, and the hay wagon when we have bonfires on the weekends. They're pretty handy for that kind of stuff!
 
I gotta see the practicality of converting it to a narrow, probably when i get the tires replaced i will fiddle around with it once they are off to begin with.

I think this weekend will be devoted to the hydraulic system however so I will have some more time to ponder the thought before i make a move. Also, I like the alternator, was that worth it?
 
(quoted from post at 18:26:04 04/19/11) I gotta see the practicality of converting it to a narrow, probably when i get the tires replaced i will fiddle around with it once they are off to begin with.

I think this weekend will be devoted to the hydraulic system however so I will have some more time to ponder the thought before i make a move. Also, I like the alternator, was that worth it?

On a bigger tractor like an M, yes. But if you have a working 6volt system I would leave it. C's and Super C's tend to start pretty well on the stock 6volt electrical system. Most 12v conversions bring problems if they're not done correctly. This tractor was converted to 12v when I bought it and I had to fix a lot of the wiring. It is nice, but if it had a working 6v system when I bought it I wouldn't go through the hassle of converting it.
 

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