Farmall H versus Farmall C wheel interchangeability

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Will Farmall H wheels fit on a Farmall C? I think the axle diameter on the H may be bigger than the C but not sure. I want to use some H steel wheels on my C if that is possible. If they won"t fit has anyone seen an adapter for using the H wheels on a C?
 
Will not fit. C, SC, 200, 230 all used 36" wheels. H and M 300 etc. used 38" wheels. Axel diameter is not the same. The rear wheel weights will interchange.
 
Curious as to why you want steel wheels -- IH never made them. I have not seen any, but there were probably some custom made, particularly by the Amish. Same with the A and B, those were never on factory steel. Really no reason for them. From the H-up, rubber tires (10 inch and narrower) usually caused too much compaction for cultivating in narrow rows, not a problem with the lighter C. I have seen steel on the Ford 8N and Ferguson 20 and 30, don't think those were factory either.
 
I have a hunting cabin on my farm and there is about 1/2 mile of hill to get to it. When it snows since the road is on the north side it stays on the road even when it is gone everywhere else. My 4x4 truck won"t always go up it. I was going to put the steel on in the fall and take off in the spring and park the tractor at the bottom of the hill. Granddad used an H to feed cattle in the winter and he used the steel. They are hard to stick in snow or mud.
 
Thanks that is the answer I needed. If there is 1/4" difference in axle diameter this would require a 1/8" collar all the way around the C axle and that would be difficult to make and deal with when putting on the wheels not to mention the keyway could be different.
 
Thanks. Steel wheels don't fit in that well today. That may be why IH did not offer them on the later models, but if you have a place you could use them and stay on the dirt they are great. I would feel better driving and old tractor on steel up a steep snow covered road than a new one with 4x4. This board is great source of info. I may use my F20 which has rubber on it but I have bought a set of steel. It starts good now but since I am the starter I don't know how that will be cranking it in cold weather. However, grandad cranked his old H year round because the 6 volt starter seemed to me was more for decoration than anything else.
 
You would be better off getting a good set of tire chains. they are easyer to put on then steel wheels. they will add a considrable amount of traction and weight. in the spring just unhook and drive off then hange up till next year.
 
(quoted from post at 17:54:07 04/15/11) Will not fit. C, SC, 200, 230 all used 36" wheels. H and M 300 etc. used 38" wheels. Axel diameter is not the same. The rear wheel weights will interchange.

Not entirely true. The early Hs and Ms were on 36" rubber, and I believe the 36" rubber was still an option for some time after that.
 
(quoted from post at 06:29:16 04/16/11) You are probably right about the chains but they are just not the same as steel wheels.

Steel wheels in mud have a tendency to sink and won't stop sinking until the tractor is setting on its belly. Tire chains on the rear tires will provide just as much traction in the snow, and will even go in the mud without sinking.
 
Not entirely true. The early Hs and Ms were on 36" rubber, and I believe the 36" rubber was still an option for some time after that.

Any pictures? Never seen an M on 36" rubber, bet that would look goofy!
 
Chains probably are the better option and as I recall the steel wheels really cut up the road but I used Grandad's old H to feed a lot in the winter and I never got stuck once but I have not doubt that it is possible, and it sounds like people have found a way to do it.
 
(quoted from post at 06:55:40 04/16/11)
Not entirely true. The early Hs and Ms were on 36" rubber, and I believe the 36" rubber was still an option for some time after that.

Any pictures? Never seen an M on 36" rubber, bet that would look goofy!

No, I have no pictures, but I have seen a few, and no, they don't look goofy. In fact, I really couldn't see the difference until I looked at the tires and read the size stamped on them. If you ever get a chance to browse through an original parts catalog, you will simply be amazed at how many different wheel/tire combinations there are. Even with the steel wheels, there is nothing that could be considered "standard". Did you know there is even a set-up that mounts 2 narrow rubber tires on the same rim?
 

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