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I am having a hard time finding a hydraulic tank that goes under the fuel tank of my 52smd. if ANYONE can help me find one it would be greatly appreaciated.
 
Yep, that tank is one of the required parts to build a fake SMTA from a 400-450. I wouldn't doubt that they are hard to find. Other parts would include the hood, grill, rear frame lid, and small miscellaneous parts, some of which can be fabricated or removed from a M or SM.

Try Steel Wheel Ranch.

It's odd but I have a SMTA that uses a X code (1952) reservoir. It's the same as a Z code reservoir.
 
i have live hydraulics on the tractor now.just bought a 2 point hitch.i thought it would be best for it,plus i like the way they look
 
You will have to make a bunch of parts to fit the Fast HItch on a SM. There was an after market fabricator that made the adaptor kit for the 450,560 hitch. Somebody has posted pictures of the side plates.
 
(quoted from post at 04:34:55 04/09/11) what do you mean empty? do you have a pic Mike. location of where i live is wauconda IL.
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Too bad I won't let you have mine. I am close by.

Can't you use the belly pump as a reservoir? It wouldn't be correct, but it would work. Then again, turning a stage I into a stage II isn't correct either.

What fast hitches were direct bolt ons? I thought the 450 or something like that would bolt right up to an M.
 
I don't know if i could use the bell pump.but i know i could use your hydraulic tank.lol.The guy i'm buying the hitch off of said he took it off a SMTA,so i would think it should bolt right on.tractor has p/s but has a make shift tank for it, so i thought i could run the p/s off the tank to.
 
SMTA has extra casting material and bolt holes in the rearend housing to mount the hitch. SMD doesn't. If you find a SM, SMTA type tank to go under a 52 fuel tank. Starter switch and battery will need relocated, switchover linkage will need some changes, also belt pulley gear box and choke rod will need bending and braket if used.
Everything can be done, maybe not simple unless you had a stage 2 SMD parts tractor with all parts that came with live hydraulic. Stage 2 starter and linkage still wouldn't work unless clutch housing was switched.
 
(quoted from post at 15:27:54 04/09/11) I don't know if i could use the bell pump.but i know i could use your hydraulic tank.lol.The guy i'm buying the hitch off of said he took it off a SMTA,so i would think it should bolt right on.tractor has p/s but has a make shift tank for it, so i thought i could run the p/s off the tank to.
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You should be able to use it. You could use an old beer keg strapped to the front of the tractor if you would like. All you have to do is have a storehouse for the extra fluid. The new tractors actually use the rear end hence the term transhydraulic fluid.
 
I'm a little confused. You say your SM already has live hyds. If so why are you looking for a hyd reservior to go under the gas tank? If the tractor already has live hdys then some has added it & is using the belly pump for the reservior. If the belly pup was gutted it should have more than enough capacity for what you're wanting to do.

I do have a "Lift-all" unit on a Stage II SM I would sell. The shaft in it is frozen & I have another unit to replace it with. If you're just wanting it for a reservior it would work. You could pull the guts out & pick upanother qt or two of capacity.

As Wardner said, to mount a fasthitch on a SM will take a lot of work. The SMTA rear end housings has different bosses that were used to mount a FH on that a SM doesn't have. If you find the job a bigger undertaking than you want I'd be interested in the fasthitch as I have a SMTA that I would like to put a FH on. FWIW, my understanding is that the early SMTA rearend housings didn't have the correct bosses either.
 
Sorry, but that hitch won't fit your SM. The SMTA has a cast pad for the hitch to mount on. If you really want a fast hitch on the tractor, you will have to switch the rear end housings.
 
There was a extra tank that was made for the p/s and it does'nt alow me to close the hood.when if the fasthitch does'nt work i will get ahold of you give me your email. I'm picking it up tomorrow.even if it does'nt work i'm still looking for that hydraulic tank.
 
good to know.so they didnt make a hydraulic tank under the fuel tank for a 52SMD and could i run the p/s of the belly pump?
 
FWIW, my understanding is that the early SMTA rearend housings didn't have the correct bosses either.
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Soybeanjoe,

I own the 177th SMTA built. I also own a 660. Both tractors have the same reinforced holes for the Fast Hitch brackets.
 
I was just looking at some pics of smta the rearends are different! I'll send you some pics when i get it.i tryed to send you a email did you get it?
 

Well, we warned you but all is not lost. If you have metal fabricating skills, you can make plates that attach with the axle housings bolts and mount the Fast Hitch to them. Those plates have been mfdg in the past but you will have a hard time finding a set. Personally I wouldn't go to the trouble. Buy a 400D or 450D. SMTAD is big bucks but it will accept the parts you just bought.

You should get acquainted with the CaseIH on-line parts book or buy the paper editions. It's the source and, with a little study, it will show you what works and doesn't.
 
I'm just learning about these things 'Parts Books'.Well live and learn.soybeanjoe says he might want it.So it might work out for everybody.Let me ask you this can i take a 450 injector pump and put it on my SMD?
 
I think all the injection stuff "is the same" The injectors aren't bc the lines come into the newer ones differently, but they are still the same the rest of the way. (from what I learned in my search for "new" ones for my MD)
I wouldn't mind thinking about that fast hitch if SoybeanJoe doesn't want it. I just sold my 3 pt, maybe I need a replacement. :lol: We know shipping wouldn't hurt me!
 
I was wondering if i might get some more hp out of her.i got the pump just wanted to do some research befor i dove in.maybe we could do some trading your tank and some cash for my hitch?lol.I still dont know what town you live in
 
Unless the SMD is already changed in the past from a type A to a type B injection pump as used on a 450, fuel line changes are also needed to use. Also maybe or maybe not the pump may need some adjustment to run the best with the SMD closed type injectors, unless the SMD was changed in the past to the open type injectors. as used on a 450.
 
(quoted from post at 05:52:49 04/10/11) wow.now i have a 450 injector pump for sale.lol
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Or your are in the market for the other half of the injection side.


Slater - I thought you could run the newer injectors with the old pump. All you needed to do was get the 450 lines with them.
 
Both types of pumps and injectors can be used with each other. Pumps set ideal for one type injectors may need a little adjusting to be ideal with the other type injectors. Can you bolt other type pump them on and run? yes if pump and timimg are okay. I was referring to tank return line,ETC. A pump has 3 lines to primary, scavaging pump on rear. B pump has 2 lines to just a primary pump on rear. IH did sell B pumps and parts to replace pumps on tractors equiped with A if wanted. Open injectors also.
 
Allready moved the batt to under the seat.looked at a SMTA today looks like i might be able to keep everything the same.(maybe)
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