Front wheel pedestal extentions?

They were used for pushing wagons into the barn and stuff like that. You could also attatch a towbar there and tow the tractor.
They are in the parts book under the hitch. IIRC they are interchangeable from rear to front. I think the same exact thing was used on the corn pickers of the era.

I"m seeing two holes in the front of my wheel pedestal just under the bolster. Many other H"s I see have an extension plate bolted here, I can only assume it is for some sort of attachment, maybe a cultivator. I"m thinking if I knew what they were called I might track one down. I think it might be a good place to mount a clevis for tieing the tractor down.

I just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing. The first tractor pictured is like mine, no extension on the front pedestal. The second tractor has a long extension, looks like it could be to attach a clevis? The third tractor has a smaller extension, maybe to attach an implement?

I'm not a farmer so I might be out of my league here. I thought they were provided for use with a shifting gang cultivator.

There should be a spot where you can bolt on the extension. Just two bolts, from underneath, I think. I'd make it out of plate steel instead of looking for one. That way you can make it the way you want. FWIW, I'd make it a little longer than shorter, with two holes. One for a pin, and the other to mount a ball on.

(quoted from post at 10:07:54 04/06/11) I'm not a farmer so I might be out of my league here. I thought they were provided for use with a shifting gang cultivator.

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You're thinking of behind the removable panel on the grille.

There are two threaded holes on the pedestal itself. It's very common to see some sort of drawbar bolted to the pedestal.

Be careful pushing wagons with the front of a small tractor. The wagon can overcome the front end of the tractor and push it sideways.

It may have been okay back in the day with a wagon sized for an H, but when you get a 9x20 basket wagon loaded with 180 x 50lb bales, you can end up jackknifed before you know it.

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(quoted from post at 10:07:54 04/06/11) I'm not a farmer so I might be out of my league here. I thought they were provided for use with a shifting gang cultivator.

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You're thinking of behind the removable panel on the grille.

There are two threaded holes on the pedestal itself. It's very common to see some sort of drawbar bolted to the pedestal.

Be careful pushing wagons with the front of a small tractor. The wagon can overcome the front end of the tractor and push it sideways.

It may have been okay back in the day with a wagon sized for an H, but when you get a 9x20 basket wagon loaded with 180 x 50lb bales, you can end up jackknifed before you know it.

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The third picture down is for a shifting gang cultivator. It is kind of a forky T looking thing.


Good advice on pushing wagons! When we use ours we push empty bale racks and chopper boxes into the shed. NEVER a full wagon. It also works well for pushing plain old trailers. You are a little more manuverable out front than in the rear.

I used to have a disk plow that used that to put a steering arm on for the rear wheel of the disk to steer with.The disk was a HM150 or 250.

That's the best way to back a 4-wheeled wagon. Be sure to have your brakes "Separated" incase the wagon gets a mind of its own.

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(quoted from post at 10:50:58 04/06/11)

(quoted from post at 10:07:54 04/06/11) I'm not a farmer so I might be out of my league here. I thought they were provided for use with a shifting gang cultivator.

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You're thinking of behind the removable panel on the grille.

There are two threaded holes on the pedestal itself. It's very common to see some sort of drawbar bolted to the pedestal.

Be careful pushing wagons with the front of a small tractor. The wagon can overcome the front end of the tractor and push it sideways.

It may have been okay back in the day with a wagon sized for an H, but when you get a 9x20 basket wagon loaded with 180 x 50lb bales, you can end up jackknifed before you know it.

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The third picture down is for a shifting gang cultivator. It is kind of a forky T looking thing.


Good advice on pushing wagons! When we use ours we push empty bale racks and chopper boxes into the shed. NEVER a full wagon. It also works well for pushing plain old trailers. You are a little more manuverable out front than in the rear.

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The shifting gang cultivator used an arm that attached to the pedastal BEHIND the removable grill plate. That is why the grill was designed that way. I've never seen anything like that "T" shaped object in any of my tractor parts books or cultivator parts books.

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(quoted from post at 11:20:16 04/06/11)

(quoted from post at 10:50:58 04/06/11)

(quoted from post at 10:07:54 04/06/11) I'm not a farmer so I might be out of my league here. I thought they were provided for use with a shifting gang cultivator.

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You're thinking of behind the removable panel on the grille.

There are two threaded holes on the pedestal itself. It's very common to see some sort of drawbar bolted to the pedestal.

Be careful pushing wagons with the front of a small tractor. The wagon can overcome the front end of the tractor and push it sideways.

It may have been okay back in the day with a wagon sized for an H, but when you get a 9x20 basket wagon loaded with 180 x 50lb bales, you can end up jackknifed before you know it.

Click to expand...

The third picture down is for a shifting gang cultivator. It is kind of a forky T looking thing.


Good advice on pushing wagons! When we use ours we push empty bale racks and chopper boxes into the shed. NEVER a full wagon. It also works well for pushing plain old trailers. You are a little more manuverable out front than in the rear.

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The shifting gang cultivator used an arm that attached to the pedastal BEHIND the removable grill plate. That is why the grill was designed that way. I've never seen anything like that "T" shaped object in any of my tractor parts books or cultivator parts books.

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True, the cultivator thingy went through the hole.

I would describe it as a T thingy, not sure what else you would call it.

sflrm,

I was aware of the fitting where the grill insert goes but I thought the two extra holes in the flange of the lower bolster were also a part of the shifting cultivator attachment. But what do I know?

The picture below is my H. I've retained the arm because I have never seen another.

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Wardner - That's the thing I was thinking of as well. I thought you meant the thing you posted a picture of the other day in the "Why are there two big holes in an SMTA grill" I'm sorry about that.

I would describe that as a T thingy if you made me. Looks closer to that than anything else.

The T-shaped item in rhat third picture is part of the hinge for a tow bar. I think that a piece of pipe is welded onto that hitch extension. Armand

Hey, in the picture of your H, what do you have attached to the front of your pedestal? Is it a clevis of some sort? Maybe that is what I need!

Just something of interest maybe, anyway, when you bought a new H one of the "extra pieces of equipment" you got with it was a triangular plate with two 3/4 inch holes in the wider end and one 3/4 inch hole in the narrower end. This plate's purpose was to bolt to the U shaped drawbar in the center to provide a rigid drawbar for any PTO driven pull type implement,,i.e. combine, corn picker etc., Curiously, but probably on purpose, this plate could also be bolted to the lower bolster where those two tapped holes are in that little extension boss thing...and this would give you a front drawbar. The earlier model H's and M's had the shorter 1 1/8th PTO shafts with the "dog clutch" shifter within the rearend housing so the subject plate was the short version. When the newer H's and M's came along with the 1 3/8 PTO shafts the clutching mechanism was in an extension housing resulting in the PTO being further back so the subject plate was about 5 inches longer and made of heavier plate IIRC. When it was used on the front as a drawbar you had to be careful steering because this extra length made it real easy for the push or pull of the hitched implement to "rip" the steering wheel out of your grasp and swivvel the front wheels to the turn limit stop if you were pushing or dead in the line of draft if you were pulling...and "queer up" your fingers in the process. "Just stuff this old Farmall owner/driver remembers".