Arc Welding and Chassis Electronics

Just curious -- has anyone had any electrical/electronic problems after arc welding on a tracor?

My uncle used to do some pretty serious welding on his sickle bar mower while it was attached to the tractor. He never had any trouble -- but then, the weld was a long way from the chassis and the tractor was a 1950's model so the electrical stuff was pretty robust.

With today's electronics operating on milliamps rather than amps, I would be very leery of arc welding on, say, a car without doing all I could to isolate at least the engine control computer. The welder provides some pretty serious current, and it's conceivable that 100 mA or so could sneak off somewhere and do some damage.

Is this worth worrying about?

Mark W. in MI
 
i WOULD SUGGEST UNHOOKING THE BATTERY AND IF POSSIBLE UN HOOK AND REMOVE THE COMPUTER IF EQUIPPED AND PUT IN A STATIC PROOF BAG. i WORK ON LATE MODEL CARS IN A BODY SHOP AND IT TAKES LONGER SOMETIMES TO DISARM THINGS THAN IT DOES TO WELD BUT ONE SPARK CAN RUIN ALL THE ELECTRONICS FOR GOOD.
 
I was always told/taught to disconnect battery before welding on a car/truck. However, I am not a professional welder or a mechanic....just my 2 cents.
 
I have welded on brand new Case sprayers without a problem. We're talking AIM system, rate controller, radar, GPS, 2 way, etc. You name it there are electronics to fry.
 
Technically you are putting surge current onto the tractor ground when welding. Not as much as a lightning strike however. I don't know how much surge there would be but to complete a circuit, it would have to go through the battery if connected and then through the fuses and key switch and other on switches. What's welding current? Maybe 28 volts at 125 amps?

If all your switches are turned off, then any surge current shouldn't get into any electronics. If the battery is connected, I suppose some surge current could go through it and to the starter solenoid.

Due to the resistance of the steel frame, I suppose it would make a difference as to how far you are welding from the electronics as everything would have a common ground to the frame. Welding around the loader would be a lot different than welding around the dash where the electronics are. How long you weld would make a difference as well.

Just surmising here.
 
If your ground is on the same piece as the piece you are making your arc, you will not have any problems. If your ground needs to find a path to your arc such as via a fastener, that is when you are asking for trouble.
 
We had a New Holland TC33D that we burnt numerous fuses when welding onto a frame around the tractor. Yes, I rep'ed it several times. I strongly encourage you to disconnect the battery before striking an arc. It will save you time in tracking down why nothing happens when you turn the key. Older tractors with a generator, no problem. You can burn the diodes in an alternator with a welding arc to the frame.
 

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