Can you use a self unloading wagon on an ensilage blower?

Anonymous-0 · Jan 30, 2011

Hi I have an old McCORMICK No.2 Ensilage and Forage blower and was wondering if unloading from a self unloading wagon the blower could handle the payload and send it high enough still to fill a 40 foot stave silo or if it is going to plug everytime I turn my head. The manual for it claims that it requires a Farmall H tractor,(which I am using),or it's equivalent.Also it claims it will effectively blow feed up to 80 feet so it should be somewhat up to the task but it claims it is only capable of moving up to 8 tons per hour of haylage and 12 tons per hour of corn silage,Is it possible that it may be referring to capacity when it is chopping crops whole or is it really always going to be that pitifully slow I really could use some clarification on this. Thanks

Nebraska Cowman · Jan 31, 2011

It takes horsepower to move ensilage. I'd say you are limited by you H no mater what you hook it to. Go slow and it will be fine. We filled our 45 ft Marrietta the first few years with an Allis table blower and Ferguson 30. Then Dad picked up a DC Case. The Case had more power but it was bad about throwing the belt off. Once we got a PTO blower that problem was solved but we were still short of power til I picked up a turboed Ford 6000. Then we could fill silo.

mkirsch · Jan 31, 2011

I think you're going to find it to be pitifully slow.

F-Dean · Jan 31, 2011

Doesn't your self-unloading wagon have a rate control? Or, can you control the rate of unloading by the engine speed of the tractor driving the self-unloading wagon. That is how I remember unloading sileage with a self-unloading wagon.

IH fan · Jan 31, 2011

Been a lot of years since I've been around silo filling, but I don't believe an H would do you much good on a blower. We only had a 36' silo and it was all a JD A would do, but a JD 60 did good, and either would be MUCH better than an H on the belt.

NY 986 · Jan 31, 2011

Not only that but the older blowers (regardless of make) were not made heavy enough to channel a lot of power through them if you were lucky enough to have a PTO driven unit. I don't know if the issue is to have something as the same vintage as the H or not.
Allis Chalmers and John Deere were the leaders back in those days for that type of blower and the AC's around here can be found without a lot of difficulty.

karl f · Jan 31, 2011

our blower tractor was a stock "49 Minneapolis Moline. We had a Kools Bros blower. Worked just fine with the 12 ton Kasten front unloading wagons. When using 1256 or the other slightly smaller IHs when the MM was down, the old U seemed just as capable with that blower. When too much silage would come down the beaters, it didn"t matter which tractor as the shearbolts would break. a half ton all at once is too much

An older blower requiring an H Farmall for power is likely designed for hand unloaded wagons. You can put a little more power to the blower to maintain its max capacity, but the blower capacity is still limited by its desgin.

good luck
karl f

JimB2 · Jan 31, 2011

Hi, 40 some years ago, when my Dad upgraded from rear unloading silage wagons to self unloading wagons, he tried to continue using our IH table blower, it lasted one day and he went and bought a JD PTO blower. I can't remember the model number of the IH blower but it was belt driven, had a conveyor belt on the table and 7 inch pipes. He used a MH 66 to run it. The JD blower required about 1/2 the HP and would blow twice the silage.

JimB

scotc · Feb 1, 2011

We had a Kools blower. Til it threw a paddle out the band, it bounced off the silo, over my uncle's head, and put a hole in the tool shed about 100 feet away. We tried Gehl, NH, and finally settled on an IH. With well over 200 HP, probably closer to 300, it took 7 minutes from stopping the wagon to pulling away with an 18 foot box.

Of course, that Kools 57" was hooked to the 1066, which we think may have had a DT466 crank in it. When the governor put fuel to it, it would rock the blower several inches one way, and the tractor the other. We also had a JD-painted Kools 60 inch, it needed a u-joint or something, we didn't bother fixing it after that.

mkirsch · Feb 2, 2011

Seems like Kools blowers have a tendency to blow up. The band clamp broke on ours when I was real little. Went soaring up in the air, and landed at Dad's feet.

That little blower was pathetic. A 5-year-old could fork silage into it faster than it could get it up the silo. I only ever unloaded into it once, and IIRC it took FOREVER to get a load of corn off. Luckily it only took 9 loads to fill that silo.

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