International ?

Lazyshoe Farm · Dec 25, 2010

I just purchased an International industrial tractor and need help finding out what model it is. The plate on the side reads 780 J AF-183. Thanks for any help !

RTR · Dec 25, 2010

Would you happen to have any pictures?? It is possible that the AF means Air Force having that those tractors were usually painted yellow. I'm no expert, but have seen them. Also, the "J" usually stands for a RockFord Clutch, and if that is what it means, the 780 would be the serial number.

Again, I'm no expert in this field; but thats an idea; and there will be someone on here that can identify those numbers and give you a correct answer. PICTURES WOULD BE THE BEST BET TO PUT UP ON HERE. GOOD LUCK.

Lazyshoe Farm · Dec 25, 2010

I will try and get a photo. Also I messed up the number. It is 700 J AF-183. Thanks

Janicholson · Dec 25, 2010

I will add to RTR"s comment that the serial number and model ID are on a 3"X4"plate (usually on the clutch housing). The numbers you have supplied do not seem like traditional IH numbers, (though I am not familiar with the industrial Serial #s).

RTR · Dec 25, 2010

Yea, I was thinking the first 3 numbers and the J sounded right for the serial number; and maybe it is an Air Force tractor, as they had their number painted on the side of the tractor. He could have gotten both numbers off of the tractor and just typed them together on here. To me, the serial number seems a little low though. Again, I'm not sure. Pictures would probably be the best help.

Lazyshoe Farm · Dec 25, 2010

That is where I got the numbers from. I only think it is industrial because it is yellow. I have spent days trying to research this number and have found nothing. Thanks

mkirsch · Dec 26, 2010

Even if that is the serial number, you've only narrowed it down to every tractor model IH ever produced...

You'll need to post some pictures to get any sort of identification.

Harold H · Dec 26, 2010

Serial number 700 or 780 would probably be during the first production year of that model as new models usually started with serial number 501. J is for Rockford clutch. I agree it is probably a Air Force Tractor but you need to post a picture in order to ID it.

Harold H

Harold H · Dec 27, 2010

The Air Force had a lot of I-300 and I-350 Utilities but that is just a wild guess without a picture.

Harold H

RTR · Dec 27, 2010

(quoted from post at 21:25:26 12/27/10) The Air Force had a lot of I-300 and I-350 Utilities but that is just a wild guess without a picture.

Harold H

I've also seen a Cub that belonged to the Air Force. You never know what it could be. Hopefully he'll post some pictures of it on here. If it is what we think, it would be nice for it to get the CORRECT full restoration it deserves.

Harold H · Dec 27, 2010

If it happens to be a Cub it is 1947, Cub Lo Boy it is 1955, I-300 Utility it is 1955 or I-350 Utility it is 1956. Still just specilating while we are waiting on a picture.

Harold H

RTR · Dec 27, 2010

(quoted from post at 23:45:32 12/27/10) If it happens to be a Cub it is 1947, Cub Lo Boy it is 1955, I-300 Utility it is 1955 or I-350 Utility it is 1956. Still just specilating while we are waiting on a picture.

Harold H

I really am excited to see a picture of it, and see what it is!!! haha, don't laugh.

RTR · Dec 27, 2010

I'm gonna go ahead and call a Cub Lo-Boy. Just have a hunch. What do you guys think?? Wanna play?

Harold H · Dec 27, 2010

RTR, that sounds like a good guessing game. I guess a I-350 Utility to those playing. I hope he comes up with a picture.

Harold H

real550A · Dec 27, 2010

(quoted from post at 21:49:35 12/25/10) I just purchased an International industrial tractor and need help finding out what model it is. The plate on the side reads 780 J AF-183. Thanks for any help !

I drove a 2424 Industrial in the Air Force in the late '60's. I currently own
a 2424 and a 3444 Industrial. The U.S. bought a bunch of them after the
Viet Nam war.

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 1, 2011

I"m still here, I am not very good with a computer and not sure how to put a photo on yet, but I will get it done. The tractor looks allot like a 330 but has a square front end with the headlights in the front grill. It only has four speeds with a three point hitch and no pto. 14.9-24 rear tires. It also has a front end loader that is white. Not sure if it came with it or not. Thanks for all the great help, I will get a photo.

RTR · Jan 1, 2011

(quoted from post at 11:05:38 01/01/11) I"m still here, I am not very good with a computer and not sure how to put a photo on yet, but I will get it done. The tractor looks allot like a 330 but has a square front end with the headlights in the front grill. It only has four speeds with a three point hitch and no pto. 14.9-24 rear tires. It also has a front end loader that is white. Not sure if it came with it or not. Thanks for all the great help, I will get a photo.

Maybe?? a 504 UTILITY, as those had the headlights in the front grill; which was a square front. Looking forward to the pictures.

If you can get the pictures saved onto your computer first, all you'll have to do to post them is type your post as normal, and click the "Upload Photo" link just below the box where you type your post/message. It is located under the Advanced Posting Tools area. Be sure to fill out all of the information it asks for when posting a photo. After you see it all, its pretty simple.

Harold H · Jan 1, 2011

I-504 as well as the 300/330/350 all have five speeds forward.

Harold H

RTR · Jan 1, 2011

But the "KEY" piece of information is that he said it has headlights built into the grille. Do those other tractors you mention have that Harold?

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 4, 2011

3 photos

Jim Becker · Jan 4, 2011

Looks to me like a 404.

Owen Aaland · Jan 4, 2011

Possibly a 2424?

Jim Becker · Jan 4, 2011

(quoted from post at 01:20:45 01/05/11) Possibly a 2424?

That is the area I'm not totally sure about. Some of the British based tractors look a lot like it. But check the PTO blank-off plate. It looks like the old A/B/C etc. shape. I don't think any of the other models looked like that.

He should check the engine to see if "C-135" is cast into the block. I don't think any of the other models used the C-135.

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 6, 2011

I posted three pics. thanks

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 6, 2011

Thats the best one I think it is, it would be a 2404 in industrial. Looks likes a 2 in front of the number makes it industrial. thanks

Harold H · Jan 7, 2011

After seeing the pictures and you saying it has four speeds, it is a International 2404 Industrial. The 404/2404 was standard with a 4 speed with a dual range optional.

Harold H

(quoted from post at 02:05:38 01/01/11) I"m still here, I am not very good with a computer and not sure how to put a photo on yet, but I will get it done. The tractor looks allot like a 330 but has a square front end with the headlights in the front grill. It only has four speeds with a three point hitch and no pto. 14.9-24 rear tires. It also has a front end loader that is white. Not sure if it came with it or not. Thanks for all the great help, I will get a photo.

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 7, 2011

Thanks for all your help! And everyone else who helped. I can now buy a manual for it. May God bless you in this new year.

Lazyshoe Farm · Jan 7, 2011

Also, do you know if a PTO can be added ?

Harold H · Jan 10, 2011

You can install a PTO in your 2404. However, since it was a factory delete PTO tractor, you will have to also install the internal drive parts. The International 2404 is shown on the CaseIH online web parts book to show you what all you would need. A donor tractor could be either a Farmall 404, International 404, or 2404. The PTO and internal in these three tractors is the same although the external linkage and handle is different on the Farmall.

Harold H

(quoted from post at 23:37:29 01/07/11) Also, do you know if a PTO can be added ?

mkirsch · Jan 10, 2011

You're going to have to split and disassemble most of the rear end of the tractor to install the PTO. It's a pretty big job, best done in a large shed/garage with a smooth concrete floor.

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