Where to find ALTERNATOR mounting brackets

RTR

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I am in need of several mounting brackets for Super A - 140 tractors having that most of the ones I have been converted and I will leave them that way. Several of them have "homemade" brackets, and are not very well made. One of which actually makes the belt off center, and the fins of the alternator pulley hit the waterpump. Therefore, I need to find a well made alternator bracket that I can simply bolt on in place of the old generator bracket (which is what is modified on mine).

Let me know what you know of, and the price. I need to find them as cheaply as possible since I will be buying several. I could also make one if you guys have the plans to do so. THANKS>
 
Not sure about your smaller tractors, but there are a bunch of guys selling brackets for H"s and M"s on ebay. I think I did see one universal bracket system that might work for you...
 
might also check auto parts stores, there is a universal braket kit made by the champ company, or whoever owns that company today, it containes several pieces and is designed for hot rods, but the kit allows you to mount a alternater to almost anything its pretty well made
 
(quoted from post at 01:41:29 12/25/10) I sell a universal bracket that would work. But they
are not cheap. About $35

Ok. If you don't mind, send me a picture. I am looking for something like the brakets on eBay that they sell for $65. To me, if the alternator was included (meaning the brackets would be about $25) it would be a good deal. I am looking for that "look" though. It looks as if it is original but it isn't. Let me see what yours look like and we'll go from there.

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THANKS>
 
On the M you can just turn the generator bracket upside down and drill the holes out, I don't know about on your tractor. As mentioned at Auto parts stores they have a bracket, made for when you put headers on a car engine, that would be easy to adapt.
 
If you want cheap, you better get to fabricating something yourself. Bet you could make a bunch of brackets for less than $5 each. I buy scrap steel at my local junk yard for 0.30 per pound. I can't see you having more than 16 lbs in a bracket.

Now if you are looking for something premade because you either don't have the skills, time or tools, then you have to pay the inventor or producer for his time and effort to put it out. Hence, Cowman's version is pretty cheap.
 

My grandfather and uncle who work on tractors with me were pipline welders and iron workers for around 40 years as their trade. We have 8 different welding machines of all sizes to use, PLENTY of scrap and new steel, and other stuff. Thing is.....you gotta get them to do it. Plus, I am such a stickler to detail, they would just make something that really looked "homemade". I'd rather purchase something that has a clean look to it if I can get them for a good price. If I were just needing 1 bracket, I'd get them to make one; but since I need Several (and will be buying them often); I'd rather purchase them.
 

Just use the original generator mounting bracket. Drill out the holes if needed to accept the correct diameter of bolt, and then add or subtract spacers made of 1/2" black or galvanized pipe to put the alternator in the correct position so the pulleys line up.
 
Since I can't edit my original post, I'll make an additional post.

If you really want a ready made alternator mounting bracket, just visit your local N.A.P.A. or other auto parts store.
 
You shouldn't need a custom bracket for A/B/C style tractors. I've seen many conversions just using the factory brackets.

The only reason you need a custom bracket on an H or an M is to tuck the alternator down under the hood.
 

Thanks so much Rusty. I will check in NAPA's brackets, and most likely use the spacer idea if theirs doesn't look like a "cobbled" bracket and doesn't go with the look of the tractor. I don't understand why the PO of one of my Super A's had to weld on a mess to the original bracket and it still not line up right!! To me, the spacer idea sounds like the best way to go money wise, AND to keep the original look. THANKS ALOT!!
 
(quoted from post at 19:30:18 12/25/10)
Thanks so much Rusty. I will check in NAPA's brackets, and most likely use the spacer idea if theirs doesn't look like a "cobbled" bracket and doesn't go with the look of the tractor. I don't understand why the PO of one of my Super A's had to weld on a mess to the original bracket and it still not line up right!! To me, the spacer idea sounds like the best way to go money wise, AND to keep the original look. THANKS ALOT!!

Not only do I not understand the cobbled up messes, I don't understand why someone thought the 12 volt conversion was needed in the first place. Especially on those smaller tractors which always did start just perfect on the original 6 volt system. I've got an M that was converted by a previous owner, and it was kind of a cobbled up mess also, but it was easier and cheaper for me to go ahead and make the conversion "right" than it would have been to restore it back to the original 6 volt system.
 

Thats what I think as well. I always leave them 6 volt if its all there and working; and if they are already converted I'll re-wire them correctly and leave them 12 volt. To me, if correctly done, both systems work fine. Only thing is, that when people who are ignorant of a 6 volt system inquire to purchase a tractor, they thing something is wrong with it having that it sounds as if the battery is dead or the system is weak. They don't realize that that is normal of a 6 volt.
 
Using the original generator bracket for conversion on the 140 yields a result that does not look good and holds the alternator out too far from the engine. The factory base bracket 68 384 C91 for alternator is very expensive to buy at $258.31. Installing it almost certainly requires the radiator to be removed. I designed and built a compact bracket for my 140 while rebuilding the water pump and repairing the radiator. The conversion is easier with the open access. The alternator is held in close to the governor linkage. I have no pictures to post.
 

Removing the radiator isn't THAT big a deal for us since when we paint them, we tear 'em down anyways. I actually might get an original bracket from a 140 that is for an alternator; and make some up homemade from that (or have them made). I just want something that looks good and clean. Hopefully I'll find something soon.
 

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