Dual Wheels on an H

I live in PA and am plowing a sandy/ rocky river bottom. Im having trouble with traction. I was wondering if i put duallies on my H would it mess anything up. Plus it would be a unique thing for the local shows.

Are you plowing with an in-furrow plow? Don't think duals will work if you are...

Ben

But he could always just put duals on the land side . Seen it around here. Looks weird but it seems to work.

if you are plowing with an in furrow you will have to do like stated above and just run one on the left side it will help and as far as messing anything up if your worried about the tractor it will be fine - they actually had a dual option i know for the m but since h n m wheels are the same im sure there were some sold for h too

how much weight do you have on the rear wheels? you may need to add either weights or load the tires with fluid.

H and M hubs are not the same. The axles in a M are bigger.

We always had a dual on the land side of a in the furrow plow. Fluid and wieghts too. Although I still don't like fluid. Neighbor had an M with duals and a cab. Always thouoght it was the coolest tractor as a kid.

I never liked running a tire in the furrow. Here's what I did on my H.
Move the furrow side H wheel in as much as possible then use the offset plow settings on the plow hitch so that the H furrow side tire runs on land.
Add as much wheel waits as you can.
The traction is a lot better and so is the ride.
Try it and see what you think.
Dell

weights, not waits.

Dell

It would be a lot cheaper than duals to just add more weights and put fluid in your tires.

We plowed for years with a dual on the land-side of a Super M. When the plowing was finished, we'd put a dual on the right side, also, then disk.
A dual on the left side will help, but the first step is to make sure your tractor is properly weighted. Weight needed will vary with plow size and type, as well as soil type. A good starting point for pulling a 2-14 plow in most soils would be fluid in the rear tires, and at least one wheelweight on each side.
If you already have enough weight, the dual will help.

Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. And from experience with my 9n Im going to avoid fluid. Need to replace both rear rims from rust.

(quoted from post at 09:41:35 12/24/10) Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. And from experience with my 9n Im going to avoid fluid. Need to replace both rear rims from rust.

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There are better things out there than calcium now days. Also, it isn't too hard to catch a leaking calcium tire right away. It is doing something about it when that happens that is the problem.

(quoted from post at 07:14:00 12/24/10) H and M hubs are not the same. The axles in a M are bigger.

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Most were clamp on duals so it wouldn't matter.

Fuller,
I agree on the fluid. For my operation it wasn't worth the hassle.
A couple points if you decide to plow with both wheels on land.
Move your drawbar as far to the right as it will go, that way you will only have to take half the offset on the plow hitch.
Of course this only works for a trailer plow.
I pulled 2-16 with my H for several years with both wheels on land.
When I switched to a Case 1030 I pulled a 4-16 with a 5 foot clay buster the same way.
I just liked the ride better.
Also, in your land situation you might consider running over it with a disc before plowing might be a help.

Dell

I have my tires loaded with Polypropylene Glycol. It's the food grade antifreeze that they sell for treating motor home and rv's and such. It doesn't cause any corrosion and wont damage the rubber. If you do get a leak it won't poison any of the animals or cause any damage to your field soil. It isn't as cheep to put in, but to avoid the problems that other fluids cause, it's worth it. You can buy it premixed or you can buy it full strength and mix it your self. I prefer to buy full strength and not buy the water.

Also my dad had duels on his H. He made them himself by making long J bolts and running them around the spokes of the inner wheel and then they had a clamp that went around the spoke of the outer wheel and with nuts he'd pull the wheels together. He took and tack welded 6 peaces of angle iron to the inside of the inner wheel and they stuck out so as to keep the outer wheel aligned with the inner when it was tightened down. I really didn't like the duel setup. You got good traction but it was harder to steer and with the longer arm it created, we ended up breaking a couple of axles. After the second, Dad took them off and never used them again. Never broke another axle. Not only that, there was one time when I over heated and needed coolant, so I took a small tube and hooked it to the valve stem on the tire and removed a couple of gallons and filled the radiator and made it back to the barn without indecent. Pumped 2 gallons of glycol back into the tire and away we went. So Merry Christmas to all of the wonderful contributors and participants in these forums. With all sincerity, LarryT

my farmall m with duals
easiest thing i ever did

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(quoted from post at 07:14:00 12/24/10) H and M hubs are not the same. The axles in a M are bigger.

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Most were clamp on duals so it wouldn't matter.

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the original ih ones used a factory wheel then the had spacers that they put on where the center bolts/clamps to the wheel so the hub had no effect on that if you go to caseih.com look up parts for farmall m and look under accessories or options they are in there if you were interested in what they were


i do have band duals for my m and have put them on for local show that was a red power show so it would not look like the 200 other farmall m's that would be there - was the only one with duals i think it looks neat and looks mean

Traction and weight are not the same as floatation. Compaction is a big problem now days and duals would be an easy fix to that, plus they would add weight.

Gene

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(quoted from post at 09:54:54 12/24/10)

(quoted from post at 07:14:00 12/24/10) H and M hubs are not the same. The axles in a M are bigger.

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Most were clamp on duals so it wouldn't matter.

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the original ih ones used a factory wheel then the had spacers that they put on where the center bolts/clamps to the wheel so the hub had no effect on that if you go to caseih.com look up parts for farmall m and look under accessories or options they are in there if you were interested in what they were


i do have band duals for my m and have put them on for local show that was a red power show so it would not look like the 200 other farmall m's that would be there - was the only one with duals i think it looks neat and looks mean

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The two pair that I have seen were different than the factory setup. They were just regular clamp on duals. My neighbor has a setup for his SM using clamp ons. He is hiding it at my house right now and I can get a picture if there is a lot of interest.

Just guessing, but you could buy an M setup and convert it for an H really easily by swapping centers. I believe the axle size is the only difference. It looks live all the rest would unbolt from the M center and bolt up to you junkyard H center.