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Some idiot in the past cut/shortened the axels on my 460D and im not shure if i need to switch right to left or not?? If i were to use a 16" plow where should the center of the right rear tire be to the center of the tractor?? Thanks in advance. Bud.
 
OK assuming you are gonna use a 4 bottom trailing plow with 16" bottoms a good starting point would be 16"x4/2-4"=28" from the edge of the furrow to center of load. If you add about two inches for space between the tire and furrow edge that makes 30" . So you can start from there and then adjust to suit the cut of the front bottom. The formula is -- plow bottom in inches multiplied by the number of bottoms divided by two (center of plow) minus one quarter of one bottom (4") equals theoretical center of draft (28")plus 2" for room to steer ( and keep your sidewalls healthy) you can omit this measurement if you wish. So with that in mind start at about 28"-30" from center of tractor to inside of right tire tread. My book for a semi mounted 4-16" calls for 60"-62" in to in . So this I think would be a good starting point. Good Luck!
 
Yeah , I think 3-16's would be a good match. I tried that with my M and it pulled it but just barely since I didn't have enough weight for traction. 4-14's might be a good match for you too it seems .
 
No to the 14" plow in any number because they plug much to easy.I called about a 3 16 semimount but it was expensive so cutting off a 4 or 5 bottem might be a idea? Bud.
 
Why do you say that? What age plow are you talking about? ANY old plow will plug in today's trash with few exceptions no matter the amount or size of bottoms. If the bottom is cutting what it's designed to cut per bottom I don't think one is any worse than another. They will all give you headaches in a modern field. Of course I'm talking about un-chopped corn ground. My Oliver 4-16" semi-mount does it's share of plugging in corn ground. But then I don't sharpen my coulters the way they are supposed to be. So the amount of maintenance has a direct bearing on the amount of plugging too.
As for cutting down a plow , my opinion is that it's not the best idea but I've never done it. There are plenty of convertible plows around that are designed to change the size of cut and number of bottoms. My 565 Oliver is a case in point. It can cut 14', 16" and be a three bottom up to a six bottom plow all in one frame with the right parts. I like it. Newer plows work even better I'm told. My plow cost $500. I bought a different one in similar condition for $300 but sold it the same day.
 
I think 3 16's in a 720 IH semi mount and cushon coulters would do me just fine but in my price range?? Here in central Mi Green tractors haull Red Plow's! Bud.
 
(quoted from post at 23:45:40 12/23/10) No to the 14" plow in any number because they plug much to easy.I called about a 3 16 semimount but it was expensive so cutting off a 4 or 5 bottem might be a idea? Bud.
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A 14" bottom will not plug up any quicker than a 16" in the same conditions and the reason is that NONE of these old plows have enough clearance between the moldboards and the beams. The newer plows DO have more clearance, but those do not work so well with the older tractors. If the amount of trash on the field is a problem, then you need to disc the field first and cut up some of that trash. That's how we always did it.
 
All a matter of what works best. Since I'm not familiar with every plow made I'll admit I don't know if a 720 was even available with only three bottoms. I used a neighbors 8 bottom 720 with an on land hitch a few years ago and I wasn't impressed with anything other than it's size. It wasn't set up very well I know now. It turned the field black but it wasn't a pretty sight. It needed a 4440 dueled with plenty of ballast to pull it through sandy soil and it had plenty of wheel slip. My Oliver has roughly the same clearance as a normal 720 but I understand there's a extra clearance version too. But like I said I'm not that familiar with a lot of different types.
I pull my 565 Oliver with a 1755 Oliver (86 horse) I also have 3 old #8's (3-14", 3-16" and a 4-14" and a JD 555H 3-14" some of which I pull with the Farmall M. I pull the #8 4-14" with the Oliver but it doesn't work all that well with the tire size of the Oliver.
 
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