What Weird or Unique Farmall's Have You Seen or Made?

Stephen McCoy · Dec 19, 2010

There seems to be some interest recently in one of my projects so I thought rather than derail someone else's thread I'd start a new one.

I have a 1945 Farmall H that I put T-20 crawler tracks on with my students back during the '05-'06 school year.

To answer some questions:

The H is complete. I could take the undercarriage off at any time, put wheels back on the axles, reinstall the steering components and have the H back as it was when I purchased it.

The tractor steers by differential braking. The original T-20 control levers are mounted to the seat frame and are linked to the brakes by 3/4" steel rods. When you pull back on a lever a brake pedal can be seen moving as the brakes activate but if you step on a brake pedal no movement is transferred back to the lever. A slot in the connection prevents this.

The 2x4's mounted on the tracks are made of HDPE plastic. There are 29 of them on each side. 4 holes were bored part way through on the bottom of each to clear the track plate bolts. 2 holes are all the way through to bolt them to the track plates and each of those holes in counter-bored for the head of a carriage bolt. 464 drilling operations in all! Actually 480 since I made 2 spare blocks with remaining material.

The blocks do help to keep the tracks from tearing up the driveway and the road but do limit some of the traction in the dirt but since it really wasn't built for pulling a plow that's ok with me.

Here's a close-up of the decals I made for it.

What weird or unique conversions have you seen or made?

Darwindo · Dec 19, 2010

Am I impressed?.....YOU BET!!!! That is so cool. I really wish I had the tools, the skills and the imagination to do that kind of thing.

CNKS · Dec 19, 2010

I don't call that weird, I like it. And while Wardner on this forum does a lot of different things to his tractors, they aren't wierd either.

perrycountyfarmalls · Dec 19, 2010

That is too cool.....I think I may have a future project in mind now...

sflem849 · Dec 19, 2010

Thanks for the extra info on the crawler.

I think the A with the fire engine setup from the GM plant definately requires recognition in this thread. I have pictures somewhere that I will try to post.

Here is some stolen info from a web search
Fire engine built on a Farmall A, on display at Old Timers Days in Xenia, Ohio, in September 2003. The water tank is underneath the tractor. Tall toolboxes are attached to the left side of the engine.

The water pump is mounted in line with and driven by the PTO. Nice diamond-plate steel deck around the operator's platform, sort of like on a standard-tread tractor, with a pintle hook on the drawbar.
http://www.vinsonfarm.net/shows.html

That may be the one I saw at RPRU but pre-resto? IIRC the guy was from Ohio

Faster346 · Dec 19, 2010

Farmall Super B-TA.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 19, 2010

Maybe I just don't get it...but why would you go to
the trouble of building a "phantom" tractor with a
TA and NOT also keep the independent PTO and live
hydraulics off one of the donors?

Stephen McCoy · Dec 19, 2010

I'm actually in the process of adding live hydraulics to my B. It had a Super A engine when I purchased it.

I've added the hydraulic pump and the lines from a Super C.

I'm not going to use the normal hydraulic system from a Super A or C, instead

I've got a 3 gallon tank I'm mounting on the left side and a hydraulic valve from a 915 IH combine. I'll be mounting my snow blow on the B and using the hydraulic for raising and lowering and power angle.

Does anyone have pictures of the combined tractors that were at Red Power a few years ago? I think one was a double or triple F-12 or F-14 and a double 400?

Wardner · Dec 19, 2010

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Here's a H that would look nice parked next to your crawler. The owner rolls lawns in the springtime.

I like modifications and any creative effort. It's even better when when IH parts are used. I probably would've used a four port "hand pump" steering valve, two cylinders, and a steering wheel to control the steering. But nevermind, I really like your tractor.

The way I see it, there aren't that many IH rarities. I can go to a tractor show and come away without seeing anything unusual. I'll walk right by 100 H's all lined up and wonder why these owners went to the trouble to display their tractors. Show me something different and now we have something to talk about.

I am currently working on a W-400-LP that will have the following non stock attachments:

Rear Fast Hitch
Front articulated Fast Hitch
Front PTO
Two left side PTOs
Hydro-static steering
Right side 30CFM air compressor. 10 KW generator. Both driven from belt pulley gearbox.
SS soda fountain plugged into front hitch
Refrigerator and water tank plugged into rear hitch
6-10 salt/ice ice cream freezers
Hot water heat exchanger
Ice crusher driven from front PTO
Rotating lighted signage
Six IH hydrauic valves
Air shifted IPTO for remote operation
Maybe a small pressure washer too.

If I ever get done with this project, I will resume working on my High-Crop W-9.

armand tatro · Dec 19, 2010

A pair of Farmall F 30 rearends mounted on an articulated frame powered by a 4-71 Detroit Diesel engine. I also have a F30 powered by a 6 cyl. Buda Diesel with a narrow tread rear axel. By the way there were 3 or 4 articulated mod. F 30"s that I know of. In the early 1960"s there quite a few I.H. tractors {as well as other brands} hooked togather in tandom for more power and traction. I know of one articulated tandom hitch that had a SMTAD in front and a 560D with fast hitch as the rear tractor that was operated from the rear tractor. Unfortunaly no pictures exist of this rig. Armand

Anonymous-0 · Dec 19, 2010

Check out ihc38.com for a set of triple 660's. Look under the 2008 show.

Faster346 · Dec 19, 2010

(quoted from post at 10:16:50 12/19/10) Maybe I just don't get it...but why would you go to
the trouble of building a "phantom" tractor with a
TA and NOT also keep the independent PTO and live
hydraulics off one of the donors?

It has a 540 PTO, isn't that live?

Faster346 · Dec 19, 2010

I have a 48 H with a bellymower..might not be that rare, but I've never seen another H with a bellymower, usually just Cs and smaller tractors.

Harold H · Dec 19, 2010

Faster,

The PTO on a H is not a "live" or "independent" PTO. It is a transmission driven PTO.

Harold H

IndianaRed · Dec 20, 2010

I can answer that. Because some of us are such rookies lacking knowledge and tools that we are just pleased to get them back together and running. Shiny paint is pleasing too.

I appreciate modifications and creativity as well. And those who have the experience and expertise to pull it off.

I know what you mean about going to shows and seeing the same models all together looking the same. But again, some of us just love having a tractor and being a part of the Red Power movement.

Merry Christmas, best to you and yours.

Faster346 · Dec 20, 2010

(quoted from post at 17:40:22 12/19/10) Faster,

The PTO on a H is not a "live" or "independent" PTO. It is a transmission driven PTO.

Harold H

I do know that, as I rebuilt the trans on my H. But the tractor in question also has a TA, which H's also do not have. No one said that had a H rear end, though it could be..but I don't see how it would have a TA if it was.

Stephen McCoy · Dec 21, 2010

I've seen a number of Super H-TA's made from 300's.

Is it possible to mate a 300 rear and TA to and H engine?

Just a thought...

Harold H · Dec 22, 2010

Back in the late 50's or early 60's I saw a Farmall 400 or 450 that had been modified just for power line ROW clearing. The tractor was a tricycle and had been reversed. It had a extra heavy duty brush cutter mounted on the rear which was now the front and a heavy protective structure built over the reversed operators platform. It was basically a very large version of todays zero turn mowers.

Harold H

billde · Dec 22, 2010

(quoted from post at 10:16:50 12/19/10) Maybe I just don't get it...but why would you go to
the trouble of building a "phantom" tractor with a
TA and NOT also keep the independent PTO and live
hydraulics off one of the donors?

That tractor is about 20 miles from me. The TA is non functional, the frame was shortened and has an air cooled engine. Can't remember if it is single or 2 cyl. It was built from parts, just something different for them to play with.

rustyfarmall · Dec 22, 2010

(quoted from post at 18:33:31 12/21/10) I've seen a number of Super H-TA's made from 300's.

Is it possible to mate a 300 rear and TA to and H engine?

Just a thought...

Sure it is. You would then call it an HTA. But why butcher up another perfectly good 300 to build a replica of a tractor that never existed in the first place?

I would much rather have a 300 with the live hydraulics and IPTO.

Todd Heck · Dec 26, 2010

Not sure if this is weird but when we bought my BN it came with the plow and it has a car power steering pump that controls the blade. It works great.

Stephen McCoy · Dec 26, 2010

I'm always amazed that old automotive power steering pumps can be so durable and useful yet newer ones don't seem to last.

Interesting seat-frame extensions on your BN. Is there much room left between the seat and the steering wheel?

Todd Heck · Dec 26, 2010

The room is ok, the only problem is that they used blocks of wood so the seat is not stable but it is fun when you turn because the seat moves with the tractor. LOL

Stephen McCoy · Dec 27, 2010

I can see that they are wood now that you say that.

I'd bet a simple "X" brace connecting the blocks would stabilize it a lot.

primerk5 · Dec 28, 2010

(quoted from post at 12:01:41 12/19/10) I'll walk right by 100 H's all lined up and wonder why these owners went to the trouble to display their tractors.

I feel the same way on this. I have two H's one is restored and the other is in its work cloths, (rough as a cob) I take my restored one to the shows, But I bet It dosen't get started all weekend. It just sits and keeps our hart parr company (which is what we run the crap out of). I thought it would be neat when they feature farmall/international out our local show in 2012 that I would take the old rough H. Kinda, fresh from the field.

Here's a forklift of some kind

This was at the Show in arcadia Md a few years back. Its a Xmas tree mower.. .

oldtanker · Dec 28, 2010

Guy just north of Parkers Prairie Mn has an H with belly mower. Saw him mowing with it this summer several times.

Rick

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