I have a 460 that we just got running for the first time in 7 or 8 years. When it was parked everything was working on it. But now the pto is stuck in the on position. What would be the best way to get the pto to free up. Also the steering is a little loose on it. Is there a way to tighten the gear box or will it have to be replaced.
- Thread starter nc460
- Start date
Janicholson
Well-known Member
With the tractor off, putting a coupler on the shaft and using a bar or chain/pipe wrench on the outside might get it free. Jim
Owen Aaland
Well-known Member
What style of PTO do you have? Early tractors had a planetary type. That unit has a small oval cover on top and the engagement lever will latch in both the engaged and brake position. The later tractors had the over center clutch style where the handle will latch only in the brake position.
The later, over center type, is more likely to see this problem. If the bolt that clamps the lever to shaft going into the PTO unit is not tight enough the woodruff key in the shaft can shear off and you will not be able to shift it. If the linkage moves going into the unit itself you may have mechanical problems that will need disassembly to repair.
I think that he is trying to tell us that no matter what position the handle is in, the PTO shaft is spinning all of the time.
When I was a kid, our 560's PTO would spin with the handle in the locked position with nothing attached, but when we had the self-unloading feed wagon attached, we had to pull the handle to engage. We used to turn off the tractor to hook up the PTO.
Looking back, my Dad was either to tight, to cheap or most likely to poor to get it fixed properly. I was too young at the time to know any different.
Edward
When I was a kid, our 560's PTO would spin with the handle in the locked position with nothing attached, but when we had the self-unloading feed wagon attached, we had to pull the handle to engage. We used to turn off the tractor to hook up the PTO.
Looking back, my Dad was either to tight, to cheap or most likely to poor to get it fixed properly. I was too young at the time to know any different.
Edward
First off, the brake in the off position was nothing to brag about on those over center pto's, need a lot of tension on them in the off position. Second, the key not only shears off, but it usually wears in the operating shaft so you lose much of the movement. You have to look real close to see if lever and shaft are both moving the same amount. I just repaired one this summer the "cheap" way. Not really the easy way though. I got a wider key and took my dremel for the lack of any better tool and made the key groove in shaft so key fit really tight and filed the groove in lever to fit key. Worked fine. This was always a problem we ordinarily repaired by replacing the shaft and other worn internal parts. Thing is you have to have a good over center snap when it is working right and the adjustment on the clutch is internal. Some latest ones had large plug in top to get in to adjust clutch. I usually just pulled the rear half off and adjusted them though. Warped discs will make them near impossible to shut off with no load on them.
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
Maybe find someone with a PTO dyno and put a light load on it? If the engine is OK, and the PTO is OK give er a tune up and dial it back in while your at it.
Similar threads
We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.
Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.
Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy