Help Identify this Farmall.....

RTR · Dec 1, 2010

Good evening ladies and gentleman. I have came across this old Farmall at a Tractor Dealers "junk area". I was wondering if the model could be identified from the pictures I have. The owner recently passed away, and they are unsure of what exactly it is other than its a Farmall. To me it look like a Farmall M, but I was wandering if it could be identified further such as Super M, MTA, Super MTA, M Deisel, etc. I would have gotten closer pics, and possibly a serial number; but it was raining and I was in a suit. HAHA. Thanks for all of the help!!

Bouncer · Dec 1, 2010

Looks like an M to me.

RTR · Dec 1, 2010

Yea, I can tell that much too; but is it possible to further identify it with these pictures??

D Slater · Dec 1, 2010

Looks like what some now call A Stage one super M tractor. Has the super type disk brakes and there is a small chance its a real late M tractor. Serial # and maybe some more information is needed to feel certain of the ID.

RTR · Dec 1, 2010

Ok, so is there no chance its not a MTA or a Deisel; or can we not tell?? How in the world can you identify if it has disc brakes in the pictures??

1949H · Dec 1, 2010

I don't believe this tractor is a diesel and it doesn't seem to have the "beefy" look of a M. So my best guess is this is a H.

RTR · Dec 1, 2010

REALLY?? YOU THINK ITS AN "H"??

D Slater · Dec 1, 2010

Exhaust pipe comes through on the right side of hood on a diesel. Diesel uses a bigger diameter oil filter than what seen in the photo, plus it looks like a gas. Cast brake housings can be seen pretty good in the lower photo with 5 bolt mounting. All M except the last month or two built used steel brake covers or a add on disc brake attachment that used 3 bolt mounting. Housing between engine and transmission is made for a belley pump hydraulic system and is shorter than a SMTA one. If the serial # is readable a Super will have the letter F or L before the serial #. Block should have C 264 in raised cast letters above oil filter housing.

Wardner · Dec 1, 2010

If your browser will let you blow up the image, you can see things alot better.

M sized because of the steering shaft angle.

Disc brakes because you can see the dust cap in the center of brake housing.

Not SMTA because of the front bolster.

Not late SM because of the seat and battery box location.

Not Diesel because of left side muffler.

Early SM or late M fits well. Can't make out casting codes or engine displacement. LOL

1949H · Dec 1, 2010

...until I read Wardner's reply.

RTR · Dec 1, 2010

HAHA, yea if you could read them; I'd say you were Superman. HAHA. What would this tractor be worth if anything. THe known facts are that it doesn't run....then you'd have to go from there with facts I am unsure of such as busted engine block, frozen engine, non-complete tractor, etc.

Say what is it worth as a parts machine??? What is it worth as a possible runner??? What is it worth as a good runner??

THANKS

rustyfarmall · Dec 2, 2010

The muffler is on the left side, so that makes it a gasser and not a diesel. The gas tank sets right up against the steering support post, so that eliminates the MTA. That leaves only the M or the Super M, and the grill does not have the 2 extra holes found on most Super Ms, plus, I can see the slightly brighter paint on the grill where the "FARMALL" emblem used to live. A Super would have the smaller, square, IH emblem.

The tractor is an M.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 2, 2010

Looks like a Super M. Like Dave said, 5 bolt disk brakes, Look at the grille emblem,,, or where it should be,,, if it had the wide FARMALL emblem, you might see different color paint and a wider bolt pattern that holds the emblem on,,, But looks like it had the small Super series emblem on the grille and fell off?

Look and see if the emblem bolts are far apart, or sit in the middle and stacked instead of spread apart like the older emblem. If its close together and it has a C-264 engine its atleast a Super M.

rustyfarmall · Dec 2, 2010

(quoted from post at 07:22:25 12/02/10) Looks like a Super M. Like Dave said, 5 bolt disk brakes, Look at the grille emblem,,, or where it should be,,, if it had the wide FARMALL emblem, you might see different color paint and a wider bolt pattern that holds the emblem on,,, But looks like it had the small Super series emblem on the grille and fell off?

Look and see if the emblem bolts are far apart, or sit in the middle and stacked instead of spread apart like the older emblem. If its close together and it has a C-264 engine its atleast a Super M.

I downloaded it and blew it up, but it just got blurry. Couldn't make a determination at all on the brakes, but it did appear to have the wide spaced holes for the Farmall grill emblem.

D Slater · Dec 2, 2010

Hard to say what its worth, everyone likes something different or has a different opinion. To me if its a SM no more than scrap price as it sits. Less than that if much haul distance. If the tires are so so you may not get double that if just fixing enough so it runs. Fixed up nice you would spend more than its worth in the end if just trying to sell. To me if its a last month built M it would be worth more than it would be if its a SM. Just because I would like to have one. If it would happen to be the last regular type M made, I would say buy it if you're that lucky.

Stephen Atkins · Dec 2, 2010

It is an early SM.

mkirsch · Dec 2, 2010

Not running, it's worth exactly its weight in scrap metal.
Loose engine, add $100
Good tires, and I mean more than black and round and holds air, add $200.

Dellbertt · Dec 2, 2010

You said it is setting in the "junk" area.
Offer him $100 and see where it goes.
Dell

RTR · Dec 2, 2010

$100 for a complete tractor???? I would be embarassed to do that. haha, around here you would get laughed at if you offered anything less than $500 (especially since they are a dealership for small tractors and lawn equipment). What do you guys think the scrap price is???

pete 23 · Dec 2, 2010

If it isn't worth 5 to 7 hundred it isn't worth two cents. It looks like a early super or very latest M as you can see the factory style disc brake.

RTR · Dec 2, 2010

Thats what I was thinking....$500-$700 with a loose motor being the defining factor. Around here people advertise their "parts" tractors for $1,000 (at least that); and usually they don't even have any equipment for that price. Thats why I usually travel to other states to buy Farmalls and equipment. haha.

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