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LJS30

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Hey guys I looked at the metal placard next to the seat and it was too faded to gather any info from. So I was wondering if any of you guys could identify this tractor. I was thinking of restoring it someday and maybe using it more as a utility tractor.

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Looks like a Farmall Super C with the live hydraulics. If the price suits you, it will make an excellent work horse or show tractor.
 

This is my Grandfather's tractor which hasn't been used in years. It would make a pretty good show tractor.
 
Hi LJS30: Do not mess up the serial number tag. Maybe later in sunlite you will be able to read it. There are other numbers to help. Under your left foot, when it resting lightly on clutch pedal, there are numbers cast into that top plate. They are coded as to when made. There are other "casting codes" on most other large items like engine block, rear end, clutch housing etc etc. Those casting codes tell day-month-year made.. There are many parts common with a regular C as well as a "B" or "A" or Super "A" etc So if you are serious about restoring it into good running condition, a super C is a very good choice.. good luck. (get the manuals.) ag
 

Like rustyfarmall said it is a Super C, as it has the curved brake and clutch peddles.Also has the elevated fuel tank. But for some reason the grill don't look right.Really looks like someone put a C grill on in place of the SC, appears the nose is sitting about an inch lower than the hood, should be at least 1 1/2 in. from the lower most cross grill openings to the hand crank hose.

Keith & Shawn(Gold Medal Winner)
 
(quoted from post at 02:57:13 09/19/10) Hi LJS30: Do not mess up the serial number tag. Maybe later in sunlite you will be able to read it. There are other numbers to help. Under your left foot, when it resting lightly on clutch pedal, there are numbers cast into that top plate. They are coded as to when made. There are other "casting codes" on most other large items like engine block, rear end, clutch housing etc etc. Those casting codes tell day-month-year made.. There are many parts common with a regular C as well as a "B" or "A" or Super "A" etc So if you are serious about restoring it into good running condition, a super C is a very good choice.. good luck. (get the manuals.) ag
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I'll go out and take a look at those casting codes tomorrow. I'm really considering a resto on this tractor for several reasons. One, it's a cool tractor. Two, it did a lot of work for our produce ranch when our ranch was in it's prime days. Three, before my Grandfather had a stroke that really sapped a lot of knowledge from him he told me he wanted it restored someday.
 
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Like rustyfarmall said it is a Super C, as it has the curved brake and clutch peddles.Also has the elevated fuel tank. But for some reason the grill don't look right.Really looks like someone put a C grill on in place of the SC, appears the nose is sitting about an inch lower than the hood, should be at least 1 1/2 in. from the lower most cross grill openings to the hand crank hose.

Keith & Shawn(Gold Medal Winner)
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Well I have another grille laying around in our shed along with another Farmall tractor just like this one except missing some pieces. I'll take a pic of that one for you guys to look at.
 
As already stated, it looks like a Super C. The grille however looks like the shorter version, as was used on the A/B/Super A. The "FARMALL" plate was used on the A and B, not the C. So it appears the grille came from an A or B, probably B as the A grille would have needed to be trimmed to fit. This grille probably wouldn't install over the Super C radiator, so you probably have more "wrong" parts than just the grille.

The really noteworthy part of this isn't the tractor. It is the cultivator. Did your grandfather raise vegetables? From the picture, it appears that the tractor has a C-452 vegetable cultivator mounted on the front. This is a rare implement. They were only built in '48 and '49. Only 650 total units were built. I've never seen one first hand.
 
(quoted from post at 04:17:50 09/19/10) As already stated, it looks like a Super C. The grille however looks like the shorter version, as was used on the A/B/Super A. The "FARMALL" plate was used on the A and B, not the C. So it appears the grille came from an A or B, probably B as the A grille would have needed to be trimmed to fit. This grille probably wouldn't install over the Super C radiator, so you probably have more "wrong" parts than just the grille.

The really noteworthy part of this isn't the tractor. It is the cultivator. Did your grandfather raise vegetables? From the picture, it appears that the tractor has a C-452 vegetable cultivator mounted on the front. This is a rare implement. They were only built in '48 and '49. Only 650 total units were built. I've never seen one first hand.
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Yes we had a fairly decent produce operation back in the 70's and 80's. I remember being a little boy standing in the back as he drove through the fields. A lot of memories man.
 
Jim, hard to tell but it appears that the radiator cap is not the pressurized one, meaning that the A or B grill fits the radiator. However, in the side view the hood appears slanted forward, and there appears to be space between the hyd reservoir and the gas tank -- again, not very clear, but the hood appears to fit the gas tank in both pictures. So it is a Super C with an A or B grill and A, B, or early C radiator.
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:11 09/19/10) Jim, hard to tell but it appears that the radiator cap is not the pressurized one, meaning . . .
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Agreed. And then you run into alignment problems with the upper water neck etc. That suggests there may be a few more switched parts. Without a closer look, there may be a few other switched parts. I think LJS30 needs to be aware that there has been some mix and match over the years. It is nothing many of us haven't had to deal with, but it is nice to be forwarned. The surprises are less surprising that way.
 
...I was thinking of restoring it someday...and your comment that your grandfather wanted it restored gives you the reason. It is hard some days, but I learned something today - the SC has curved clutch and brake pedals. Also, that Jim Becker fellow sure is knowledgeable with his information on the implement; me wonders where that info is available? The wide front end is more rare. Thanks for sharing and good luck w/your Farmall/IH project. Keep it in the family!
 
Al, the trick is knowing where to look! There is a wealth of information in the McCormick Collection at the Wisconsin Historical Society. Here is one page every IH collector with a computer should bookmark:
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/libraryarchives/ihc/search.asp

Go to that page and scroll down to "Browse the Collection" and click on the first item "Machine List". That is where I got the years/numbers on the C-452 cultivator. You should be aware that particular document is a derived document. It was assembled from earlier records (sometimes years later). It has some errors. If an earlier record disagrees with it, the earlier record should generally be believed. It is also incomplete for many machines (no end date, no volumes). It is the only source I have seen for most of the production volumes.
 

I know it's been a long time but I am very close to pulling the trigger on getting started on this thing. Soon I may be on here a lot asking you guys for help. :) :)
 
(quoted from post at 19:25:47 09/19/10) ...I was thinking of restoring it someday...and your comment that your grandfather wanted it restored gives you the reason. It is hard some days, but I learned something today - the SC has curved clutch and brake pedals. Also, that Jim Becker fellow sure is knowledgeable with his information on the implement; me wonders where that info is available? The wide front end is more rare. Thanks for sharing and good luck w/your Farmall/IH project. Keep it in the family!
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Where is there a good source of parts for this tractor?
 
You should really start a new thread. Not many people use the modern format so you get missed easily if you just add to your old one. (I know...it's not normal forum procedure)

OEM Tractor Parts has parts. They are expensive, but most of their parts are decent. Of course there are your used sources like eBay, Craigslist, classifieds, and junk yards. This website sells parts, but you have to be really knowledgeable. I was just looking at parts yesterday and they have the wrong part listed for some tractors and/or they have parts that will work, but aren't "right" for that tractor. I don't like that...
 

Good luck to you.... will be awesome when it's re-stored. Im in that process now on our family 560. Same deal, last June my dad & I decided it would be GREAT to make our working 560 into a show tractor. He passed away a month later, will be nice to honor him.
 
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