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I just got my 300 out and mowed all day Friday. I came in and swapped out for a plow to break some ground for food plots and halfway through it started spitting and sputtering. I'd tap on the tank and it'd climb back up in RPM and I would go for a little while and it would do it again. I drove it straight to the shop, drained the gas and pulled the tank. I was so tired of fighting with rust. I spent all afternoon cleaning it out, put a chain in and rolled it around and beat on it with a rubber mallet. I washed it out, degreased it and put on a stand to dry with a blower blowing in it. On Sunday evening I plugged the drain and broke open a can of Red Kote and coated the inside of the tank. It looks like it only took a 1/2 quart to coat the tank, so I'm going to put another layer on this evening.

The rust in my tank has been a pita since I've owned it and now that I have it lined is there even a need for the sediment bowl? Won't an inline filter do a better job? I need to pick up some new fuel line and was thinking I could just get rid of the sediment bowl altogether.
 
Now that your tank is clean, clean the screens in the sediment bowl and at the carb and your problems should be over. The sediment bowl was doing its job keeping crud out of the carb. It was not the problem, crap in the tank was the problem.
 
An inline filter is not needed. It can cause more problems that it solves in some cases. Also an inline filter will not trap water like a sediment bowl does. Another suggestion, make your new fuel lines out of steel brake line. Rubber hose is not a good idea on these old gravity feed farmalls. Hose gets a little rotten or you have a small fire and it can get big real fast when it has a full tank of fuel to feed it.
 
Best thing you can do, all it takes is a few 3/8 inch fittings, a 3/8 lever valve and a napa 3032 filter. All that is cheaper than a replacement sediment bowl. You can just take the screen out of the sediment bowl and add the filter, but the bowl is best eliminated.
 
(quoted from post at 09:49:54 08/16/10) I just got my 300 out and mowed all day Friday. I came in and swapped out for a plow to break some ground for food plots and halfway through it started spitting and sputtering. I'd tap on the tank and it'd climb back up in RPM and I would go for a little while and it would do it again. I drove it straight to the shop, drained the gas and pulled the tank. I was so tired of fighting with rust. I spent all afternoon cleaning it out, put a chain in and rolled it around and beat on it with a rubber mallet. I washed it out, degreased it and put on a stand to dry with a blower blowing in it. On Sunday evening I plugged the drain and broke open a can of Red Kote and coated the inside of the tank. It looks like it only took a 1/2 quart to coat the tank, so I'm going to put another layer on this evening.

The rust in my tank has been a pita since I've owned it and now that I have it lined is there even a need for the sediment bowl? Won't an inline filter do a better job? I need to pick up some new fuel line and was thinking I could just get rid of the sediment bowl altogether.
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The sediment bowl is a much better filter than ANY in-line filter you could replace it with. The sediment bowl allows you to SEE the rust accumulating in the glass bowl and you can clean it out BEFORE it causes problems. The in-line filter, on the other hand, will just suddenly become so clogged that ALL fuel flow will cease and leave you stranded with a dead tractor. If you decide to go with the in-line filter, you need to carry 3 or 4 spare filters with you at all times.
 
I agree with rusty. In line filter in the long run cause many many more problems then they are worth. Plus most are made for systems with fuel pump and made for 5-7psi plus and your gravity flow system will even when full not put out more then 1 or 2 psi if even that much
 
If you clean out the tank, it doesn't matter which system you use, as long as you implement it properly.
 
(quoted from post at 11:33:25 08/16/10) If you clean out the tank, it doesn't matter which system you use, as long as you implement it properly.
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Correct, but that first fill of contaminated, NEW gasoline will tell the difference between an in-line filter and the original sediment bowl.
 
Yep and this new crap gas we have now days seems to like to suck in water and no in line filter will show you all that water but a sediment bowl sure will say HEY empty me before you use me
 
I had the same problem on my M and I tried using an inline filter on it, and it would starve for fuel then. I just had to keep cleaning it out until I got most of the rust out, still quite a bit in there. Sucks.
 
I have been sticking inexpensive filters on some of the tractors around here with rubber gas lines this summer but it is temporary. If the tank is not flaking rust then they should not clog up too quick. I would use BOTH while trying to resolve my dirty tank issue. Once the tank is clean I would run both for a short period until I was sure no crud was getting to my carb. That is the goal here...keep junk out of your carb. Once you have a normally clean fuel system, I would fab a solid fuel line from a piece of brake line and 86 the inline filter. Under no circumstances would I eliminate the sediment bowl.
 
The problem I had was the rust would plug up the inlet to the sediment bowl. The fix was to remove the sediment bowl assembly from the tank and clean it or use compressed air to blow it back into the tank. Royal PITA. I removed the sediment bowl and threw it in the trash.
In it's place I installed a 3/8"xclose nipple,T,3/8"x3" nipple ,then 3/8" cap, all in a vertical position. This acts as a dirt leg to catch the big pieces. On a horizontal plane out the side of the T, I installed a 3/8" x close nipple then a 3/8" ball valve then a gravity feed fuel filter from napa. That has been the end of the fuel problems. Based on the advice of fellow forum contributors I did go buy several extra filters and keep them with the tractor. It's been over a year and several hundred gallons of fuel and I have yet to have a filter plug.
 
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