Help Identify this IH implement........

I think this is some sort of a hay conditioner, but I'm not sure. I would like to know model and what it is and possibly how old. If anyone is intrested, it is for sale. I was thinking its worth $600, or make me an offer. Just trying to get some info on something like this. Thanks.

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One or two pictures of the underside would be helpful, but I believe it is a hay crimper.

hay crimper

Anyone know the specifics?....model, year range, what its worth. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Looks like a stand alone conditioner. If that is what it is, they are pulled inline with the tractor, behind a side mounted sickle mower to crimp the hay was cut on the previous pass.

I had one offered to me a couple years ago, in far better condition, for $300. There just isn't much demand for em.

Ben

Scrap metal price I'd say - Nowaday there's so many mower-conditioners & Haybines out there, I don't think you can find anyone that wants to mow a field with a sicklebar, then go around the same field a second time pulling this thing.

Ok, well thats what I have in this one. I would take $250 just to get some of my money back on it. I'm pretty sure the usable parts on it are worth that much.....only if you could find someone with the need for one, or the need for parts for one.

Its a McCormick 2A Hay Conditioner from the late 50's to early 60's (guessing on the years) used behind the 100 FH/3PT, 24 FH, 28 FH/3PT, and 31 semi mounted mowers. I would buy it from you in a minute but not at your price. I gave a guy $100 for a good New Idea version of it and he delivered it 100 miles as part of the deal. I have a few old mowers around here and I would like to play with that thing a little.

I owned one a few years ago, but purchased a mower conditioner which has a wider cut and a reel which makes it alot easier to mow without plugging as much.

Aw! Everyone beat me to it. Yes, it"s an IH 2A hay conditioner. The #1 came out in "58 & the number 2 in "59. They added greaseable bearings for the lower roller, a heavy duty center axle cap, height control & cushioning attachment & a few other details & called it the 2A for 1960. It was followed by the 33 & 34 later in the "60s. I think they stopped building conditioners in 1970 or "72.

The rollers & bearings are usually the first things to go on those machines when parked outside, bar the paint & decals. The bearings go tight & the rollers dry-rot & fall apart. I know this all too well from my current machine. It"s a #2 & was sitting outside for 10 or 15 years before I rescued it for the price of scrap. After piddling away half the summer tracking down 2 bearings (those old flat tops are a PAIN to find!), I settled on 2 newer style bearings that fit with some modificaton. After bearings & flanges, a flat tire, oil for the gearbox & grease here & there, I got 2 1/2 seasons out of the machine after a, uh, undisclosed amount of cash was invested. The bottom roller is now smooth & about a half inch smaller than what it should be. It"s completely useless. It would cost me $400 to replace ALL of the discs on the roller, $50 for pins, collars & other hardware, & Heaven forbid I should have to replace the shaft itself for a bit under $500! Then there"s the roll compressor that has to be scratch built to take the whole mess apart. Etc, etc.

Nosir, just ain"t worth it. It"s also sad that there isn"t much of a market for them. I was looking for a replacement, up "till a month ago, for my unit & figured I may have been the only guy in the contigious (sp?) 48 that was actually shopping for one. They are good machines & if yours hasn"t been sitting out for too long, it could be ok. It may be worth about $100 - $150 if such is the case. Just my opinion, though.

Mike

Go to the web site - Wisconsin historical society digital collection .org. They have a collection of International Harvester implements from the start of business.

Well, it has been tucked inside a barn for approx 8-10 years; so I would think it is in better condition that you were describing. Yea, I'd say that the parts are worth $100-150. If you want it, you are welcome to come and take it off my hands.

I have heard a new holland 411 discbine or the next smaller model (408?) can make a great pull type conditioner. Repair or replacing the cutterbar costs as much as another good used one, so many needing cutterbar service with the remainder of good parts get parked. about 10 bolts and the cutterbar is off and it"s ready to go as a conditioner. The tin modifications probably take more effort than removing the cutterbar.

karl f

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Well, it has been tucked inside a barn for approx 8-10 years; so I would think it is in better condition that you were describing. Yea, I'd say that the parts are worth $100-150. If you want it, you are welcome to come and take it off my hands.

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Your original price is pretty steep up here in Wisconsin (and we still make hay) A GOOD one with metal rolls could go for around $400, but the rubber rolled ones tend to go cheaper bc they don't crimp the hay as well. They are more forgiving as to time frame of getting out in the field to crimp, so there are some good sides to rubber rolls.

How much for the dog?

$150 and it has a new home.

Yea, well I was kinda going by the Haybine we sold last February. We had an early 70's New Holland Haybine we picked up from another neighbor that had passed away. It had been stored in a barn as well and had a broken U-Joint Yoke and missing the female PTO coupling. We sold it for $1,500 to some guys that were 265 miles away. They nearly "snatched our arms off" for it. HAHA. Thats where I came up with the initial asking price for this one since it was older and smaller.

If anyone wants it though, I'll take $150 for it just to make more room for the Cubs and implements I just bought yesterday. I'm bringing 3 more Cubs in plus several sets of Cultivators, Planters, and Mowers. YAY!!

Throw in the mower conditioner and you got a deal. LOL

I sold the NH conditioner last February. Therefore I can't throw it in.

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Yea, well I was kinda going by the Haybine we sold last February. We had an early 70's New Holland Haybine we picked up from another neighbor that had passed away. It had been stored in a barn as well and had a broken U-Joint Yoke and missing the female PTO coupling. We sold it for $1,500 to some guys that were 265 miles away. They nearly "snatched our arms off" for it. HAHA. Thats where I came up with the initial asking price for this one since it was older and smaller.

If anyone wants it though, I'll take $150 for it just to make more room for the Cubs and implements I just bought yesterday. I'm bringing 3 more Cubs in plus several sets of Cultivators, Planters, and Mowers. YAY!!

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Up here people run them behind their moco's all the time. They usually wait about 12 hours, but not too long of it will destroy your hay.