1086 IH weight

How much does a 1086 IH weight. I got one given to me and need to go get it 55mil away.

It can be anywhere from 12,000 to 16,000lbs.

You should either drive it, or hire a heavy hauler with a tractor-trailer to move it. There is no way you're going to tow it home on a 7-ton bumper trailer with an F-250.

I just hauled mine 40 miles with my neighbors 20' gooseneck trailer rated for 14k with my powerstoke, and had no problems. I was not in a hurry, and ran 50 mph most of the time.

If it is in good condition, I would not be afraid to drive it that far. Mine is not!

Good Luck

(quoted from post at 07:06:08 07/21/10) I just hauled mine 40 miles with my neighbors 20' gooseneck trailer rated for 14k with my powerstoke, and had no problems. I was not in a hurry, and ran 50 mph most of the time.

If it is in good condition, I would not be afraid to drive it that far. Mine is not!

Good Luck

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That trailer was overloaded by nearly twice the capacity. If the D.O.T. had spotted you, the truck, trailer, AND the tractor would most likely have been impounded, and YOU would have paid a very hefty fine.

55 miles is a nice 2 hour ride in the tractor.

Drive it. Road speed is close to 25 mph for a 1086.

It would take 30 minutes to load and unload.Then an hour of drive time. You would only save 30 minutes to haul it.

Down side is taking a buddy along to drive the car home. May have to feed him or something.

Gary

Forgot to say it could weigh 16000 if it is full of fluid,full of fuel and has a few weights hanging on it.

No fluid or weights and low on fuel it weighs in around 12,500.

Very interesting as I met a State Trooper, and the County Sheriff
passed me and waved

The trailer probaly has 10000/11000 lb. cargo capacity and DOT has no way of knowing if you were over that without running you across scales. Any tickets they write have to be based on laws or regulations and facts not their opinion.

(quoted from post at 17:51:16 07/21/10) Very interesting as I met a State Trooper, and the County Sheriff
passed me and waved

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The highway patrol and local county sheriffs will usually NOT bother you because they are not educated in such things. The D.O.T. (diesel cops) are the guys who will get you.

Rusty I am curious as to why you think a tractor with 12000 lb. official shipping weight (bare tractor) will load 14000 lb. GVWR trailer that probaly weigh 3000/4000 empty to twice its capacity. I have seen lots of similar rigs cross scales and be given green light without hesitation.

On interstate system weights are set by Federal regulations and 23 CFR 658.17 (f) says.....Except as provided herein, States may not enforce on the Interstate System weight limits of less 20,000 lbs. on single axle, 34000 lbs. om a tandem axle, or the weights derived from the bridge formula, up to a maximum of 80,000 lbs., including all enforcement tolerances. States may not limit tire loads to less than 500 lbs. per inch of tire tread width, except that that such limits may not be applied to tires on the steering axle. States may not limit steering axle weight to less than 20,000 lbs. or the axle rating established by the manufacturer, whichever is less. For complete Federal Weight limits do Google search for "23 CFR 658.17".

(quoted from post at 11:44:56 07/22/10) Rusty I am curious as to why you think a tractor with 12000 lb. official shipping weight (bare tractor) will load 14000 lb. GVWR trailer that probaly weigh 3000/4000 empty to twice its capacity. I have seen lots of similar rigs cross scales and be given green light without hesitation.

On interstate system weights are set by Federal regulations and 23 CFR 658.17 (f) says.....Except as provided herein, States may not enforce on the Interstate System weight limits of less 20,000 lbs. on single axle, 34000 lbs. om a tandem axle, or the weights derived from the bridge formula, up to a maximum of 80,000 lbs., including all enforcement tolerances. States may not limit tire loads to less than 500 lbs. per inch of tire tread width, except that that such limits may not be applied to tires on the steering axle. States may not limit steering axle weight to less than 20,000 lbs. or the axle rating established by the manufacturer, whichever is less. For complete Federal Weight limits do Google search for "23 CFR 658.17".

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You are underestimating the weight of the gooseneck trailer. Mine has a shipping weight of 5,200#.

As for the rest of your statement, just try explaining all of that to an IOWA D.O.T officer. He will esplain it right back to you, but in much more costly terms.

That was not my statement it came Federal Highway Administration Department Of Transportation and if Iowa Dot does not follow their rules on Interstate Syatem they will lose Federal Highway funding. Arkansas and California tried that recently but quickly backed down when funding was cut.

Would you please post link to the Iowa laws you refer to. Out of curiosity I just read Iowa truck weight regulations posted by Iowa DOT and what I saw read very much like Federal weight limits with no mention of GVWR

I am going to weigh (no pun intended) in with rustyfarmall on this one. If the 14,000 lb trailer weighs 4000 lbs that only leaves 10,000 lbs left for the cargo. If the tractor is at the low end at 12,000 lbs then he is 2,000 lbs overweight. If it is closer to the 16,000 lb upper guess then he is 6,000 lbs over weight. Not overweight by double but more than 50%. Under either of these conditions you are going to be parked at the scale and paying a hefty fine, in any state. The safe thing to do is to get a towing vehicle and a trailer that can "safely" haul the load. That is what federal and state laws are all about. Usually the tires on the trailer are matched up with the axle rating so on a tandem axle single tire trailer the tires need to be rated at 14,000 divided by 4 = 3,500 lbs each. If someone has replaced the tires with "cheaper" tires then the rated capacity of the trailer is down to whatever the tire rating is. Our tractor club had Iowa DOT at our meeting a week and a half ago and he says that they do look at the tire rating since they don't always know what the axle is rated at. I have an H&H trailer rated at 24,000 lbs. Safety and legal are the two things to keep in mind.

Randy I agree that overloading is not a good idea and should not be done but I have crossed scales hundreds of times both fixed and portable in evarything from 1 ton hot shot to Class 8 Semi and have never seen anyone look at data plate on truck or trailer. Would still like to see link to Iowa regulation that says exceeding GVWR is illegal as the weight regulations posted on Iowa DOT web site does not mention GVWR.

NDS is correct.

The factory rating of the trailer is irrelevant. Manufacturer's GVWR, GAWR, and GCWR are not law.

What's important is what's on your vehicle registration.

I have a Chevy dually with a GVWR of 11,400lbs. It scales at 6300lbs. However, I have it registered in NY state as a commercial vehicle for 10,000lbs, because at least for now I do not plan on putting more than about 3500lbs in the bed. This saves me a few $$$ in registration costs.

If I were pulled over and weighed, and I came in over 10,000lbs, I would get a ticket even though my GVWR is 11,400lbs.

You can register a vehicle for whatever weight you want.

I mostly agree but there are at least 2 exceptions.
Connecticut Statues
Volume 5
Title 14
SEC. 14-267
(b) The axle weight on any axle and the gross weight of any vehicle or combination of vehicle and trailer or vehicle and semi trailer or any other object, including its load, may not exceed manufacturers axle weight rating,the gross vehicle weight rating, or the following gross weight limits.

Pennsylvania Consolidated Statues
The Vehicle Code (Title 75)
Chapter 49
Subchapter C
4943 Maximum axle weight of vehicles.
(a) general rule--No vehicle or combination driven upon a highway shall have a weight upon any axle in excess of manfacturers rated axle capacity or the following applicable weight.

The above statutes are void on Interstate System as Federal weight limits rule there.