Farmall M kelley loader installed with pictures

3500sport · Jul 7, 2010

I recently took a trip up north and picked up a Kelley loader from my dad off of his super H. It fits on his M and super H fine. When I went to install it on my M I couldn't get the bracket to fit on it.

This bracket has the large 1 1/8" bolt that goes through it into a raised spot on the rear casting directly in front of the brake shaft.

My tractor is an X20 (factory cotton picker, arkansas tractor) the mount hole on mine is like 2.5 inches from the brake shaft, on my dads M (standard X1 gasoline) it is 4 inches, on his super H it is like 6 inches. Why would my tractor mount up differently? As it is I'm going to have to grind away a bunch of this bracket to get it to fit. I wasnt aware that they made different castings on the rears of these.

Anyone have any experience with the X20 M's and trying to put a loader on them?

Attached are pics of said attachment point

You can see where I had to grind up just to get it to fit over by my Left brake assembly...

Jim Becker · Jul 7, 2010

Well, your part number on the rear frame (transmission housing) is the standard part number so nothing there can be different. How about turning some parts over or swapping from side to side. Flipping the spring linkage assembly might give you some more room. How about a swap of those two brackets (the one you were grinding on) from one side to the other and flipping the top to the bottom? You would end up using the other holes and it would move the loader frame forward a couple inches. That looks to me like that would be the fix.

3500sport · Jul 7, 2010

The brackets are identical. I'll try this tomorrow.

I don't understand though why mine would have this attachment point in a different spot than my fathers m (1948 x1 standard gasoline row crop) unless I'm hooking this up wrong although I'm pretty sure this is how it was hooked up to his super H (other than I had to move the main part of the frame to the inner bolt holes instead of the outer ones because the M is wider than the super H)

sammy the RED · Jul 7, 2010

Are the brakes the same style ?

Jim Becker · Jul 7, 2010

(quoted from post at 22:56:43 07/07/10)
The brackets are identical.

t is clear from your third and fourth pictures that the two brackets are not identical but are mirror images of each other.

3500sport · Jul 8, 2010

They should be the same style (his is a 48 standard M, mine is a 47) unless someone put disc brakes on this one although I do not know what the implications of that would be on their dimensions.

mkirsch · Jul 8, 2010

I think you've got the frame bolted in the wrong place up front.

That's what's pushing your brackets back into the brake drums.

I sincerely doubt that yours and your dad's tractors are significantly different.

Bolt the rear brackets where they should be, and then see where the front brackets end up.

3500sport · Jul 8, 2010

at the moment they are just bolted around the frame and can slide either way I just can't line up the hole to put the bolt in

mkirsch · Jul 8, 2010

Unbolt them from the frame in the front.

You are using the wrong hole in the front.

3500sport · Jul 8, 2010

This doesn't bolt through the frame, rather it clamps around the frame. As it is the brackets will not fit in to where the bolt holes line up by themselves

3500sport · Jul 8, 2010

Well I flipped the mount brackets as previously suggested and it worked like a charm, thank you for the suggestion, as soon as my better half lets me back outside I will finish installing it and include some pics

Thank you all

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