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Bill47 Perry

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I need to be educated on the front weights for an 806. I have looked closely at the IH advertisements from 64 and 65 and it appears there are 10 of the weights on the front weight bar. Were these weights 100 lbs each or 75 lbs each or maybe a different weight each? I need to get my facts straight before I go looking to buy weights. I assume these weights have the IH logo on them as I seem to remember seeing a picture that showed the weight with the logo. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for replies.

Bill Perry
 
Both sizes were available and will fit an 806 and did have "IH" on the sides. The weights are approximately 75 and 100 lb each. I have weighed more in the 96 lb range than were 100lb, so I would assume that the weights plus bracket added about 100 lb.
 
I had a 706 a long, long time ago. I think back then it had a 10 weight bracket, and at that time, 75# weights was all that I saw. They had the IH logo on them. The early weights did not have the "L" shaped slot through them for the angle to go thru to hold them on.
 
Most of the 806's I've seen had the 75lb weights, and I think the correct ones would have the small hand hole and no L-bracket slots. All the brackets will fit, but the right one should be 10 hole.
 
(quoted from post at 19:20:32 03/25/10) Beware of cheap imitations(generic foundry)they look the same but do not have the IH logo.
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Beware??? They are a little cheaper to purchase and they serve the exact same function. At a show they might not fly, but they work fine at a pull or in the field.
 
Weight can vary a few pounds in either direction because of casting variations.

I think the nominal weight on the large weights is 95lbs and the small weights are 70lbs.

Period correct is indeed the ones with the small hand-hole, and no hole for the L bracket at the bottom.
 
Man, if I only had the stacks of weights from the old dealership... IIRC, the smaller weights were considered standard size, and nominal 73 lbs, and the larger ones were optional size at nominal 102 lbs. Remember as a kid, you'd say "I can put those on"- then once you could, it became your permanent job LOL. Then gramps said, set 'er up for plowing, I'll be back in a while- which meant blowing the wheels out from 60" to 84" centers. Me at 12, and the old 8N with a Wagner loader, the little IH clamp bolt wrench & 4' of pipe. Actually, the rears were easier than the fronts
Same year I started putting on the 4-row cultivators (2) on by myself- the ones that bolted to the weight bracket holes and then swung in to the sides. After moving the wheels back in to 60" of course
 
(quoted from post at 08:10:25 03/26/10) Man, if I only had the stacks of weights from the old dealership... IIRC, the smaller weights were considered standard size, and nominal 73 lbs, and the larger ones were optional size at nominal 102 lbs. Remember as a kid, you'd say "I can put those on"- then once you could, it became your permanent job LOL. Then gramps said, set 'er up for plowing, I'll be back in a while- which meant blowing the wheels out from 60" to 84" centers. Me at 12, and the old 8N with a Wagner loader, the little IH clamp bolt wrench & 4' of pipe. Actually, the rears were easier than the fronts
Same year I started putting on the 4-row cultivators (2) on by myself- the ones that bolted to the weight bracket holes and then swung in to the sides. After moving the wheels back in to 60" of course
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What size plow were you running at 60"? I take it that is from center to outside of tread?
 
(quoted from post at 17:49:58 03/26/10)
(quoted from post at 08:10:25 03/26/10) Man, if I only had the stacks of weights from the old dealership... IIRC, the smaller weights were considered standard size, and nominal 73 lbs, and the larger ones were optional size at nominal 102 lbs. Remember as a kid, you'd say "I can put those on"- then once you could, it became your permanent job LOL. Then gramps said, set 'er up for plowing, I'll be back in a while- which meant blowing the wheels out from 60" to 84" centers. Me at 12, and the old 8N with a Wagner loader, the little IH clamp bolt wrench & 4' of pipe. Actually, the rears were easier than the fronts
Same year I started putting on the 4-row cultivators (2) on by myself- the ones that bolted to the weight bracket holes and then swung in to the sides. After moving the wheels back in to 60" of course
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What size plow were you running at 60"? I take it that is from center to outside of tread?
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You can't plow at 60", he is plowing at 84", measurement is center of tire to center of tire. I only moved the right tire cause a dual went on the left.
 
(quoted from post at 06:02:37 03/27/10)
(quoted from post at 17:49:58 03/26/10)
(quoted from post at 08:10:25 03/26/10) Man, if I only had the stacks of weights from the old dealership... IIRC, the smaller weights were considered standard size, and nominal 73 lbs, and the larger ones were optional size at nominal 102 lbs. Remember as a kid, you'd say "I can put those on"- then once you could, it became your permanent job LOL. Then gramps said, set 'er up for plowing, I'll be back in a while- which meant blowing the wheels out from 60" to 84" centers. Me at 12, and the old 8N with a Wagner loader, the little IH clamp bolt wrench & 4' of pipe. Actually, the rears were easier than the fronts
Same year I started putting on the 4-row cultivators (2) on by myself- the ones that bolted to the weight bracket holes and then swung in to the sides. After moving the wheels back in to 60" of course
Click to expand...

What size plow were you running at 60"? I take it that is from center to outside of tread?
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You can't plow at 60", he is plowing at 84", measurement is center of tire to center of tire. I only moved the right tire cause a dual went on the left.
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I see that now. My mistake. What plow do you run at 84"? My tires are at 90" ish and they run my 3-14 pretty well.
That brings about another question. You were cultivating 30" rows back then!?! Most guys that farmed with Ms up here were still on wide rows.
 
706D's, one with 18.4-34's, the other with 15.5-38's. When we wanted to cultivate beans with the one, the 18.4's were swapped for a set of 13.6-38's which were also used with the bean pullers. The 13.6's also saw duty as outside duals on the other tractor in the spring. Plow was a 4x16 semi-mounted "steerable" that had hydraulic sideshift at the 3pt mount to fine-tune the positioning
 
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