I am restoring a farmall H right now and am puting on the flat back style lights on it. Now I need new sealed beams for them because the ones in it are 6 volt I believe and a couple might be burnt out. Are there any other options except for paying $43 bucks a bulb? I have stuck alot of money in this tractor and dont have a problem with that but I am having a hard time swallowing the price of these lights. Any ideas?
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Dave H (MI)
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If those 6v lamps are the same as on the 57 Loboy I have I would certainly consider taking any that work off your hands. Would that help a little?
Dave H (MI)
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If those 6v lamps are the same as on the 57 Loboy I have I would certainly consider taking any that work off your hands. Would that help a little?
Nebraska Kirk
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If you don't want to spend the $$ for the sealed beam bulbs, then go back to the incandecent bulb type.
I understand the flat isnt original and I may go back to the tear drops. I have both, but I like the looks of the flats better. I am not sure what is a fair price but I dont think 43 is. Maybe half that but that is my opinion. I mean you can go buy a universal one like it and pay between 10 and 15 bucks. It bugs me when a guy has to pay more for the same thing because its a name brand. Welcome to real life right. 
Oppie: Yes, there is an option. I don't have the bulb number for the 12v, but the 6v is #1145. You can take that information to your local napa store and ask them for the 12v version of the same bulb. You will need to grind off an indexing boss on the backside edge of each bulb - just don't get them too hot as you do it. If the glass starts to glow, you are going too fast and getting it too hot. They sell for about $16-$17 each. The terminal connections are slightly different, but they work fine in the flatback housings. The lens is also slightly different as it does not have the little "circle" pattern in the middle. I'm using the 6v ones in my SM and am pleased. Hope this helps. mike
Nebraska Cowman
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We pulled a lot of those lights off and threw them away 40 years ago because the farmer would not pay the price of the special bulbs. Yeah, I know, but we did.
First: Why install incorrect lights that cost more and are no better?
Second: I've done both H, SH, and SMTA and the flat back lights are no brighter, are a PITA and cost more.
Third: The old tear drop just plain look better.
Save money, save time , stay original and use the teardrops on your H. You going to be out cultivating in the dark? And there ain't no tractor parades at midnight.
Gordo
Second: I've done both H, SH, and SMTA and the flat back lights are no brighter, are a PITA and cost more.
Third: The old tear drop just plain look better.
Save money, save time , stay original and use the teardrops on your H. You going to be out cultivating in the dark? And there ain't no tractor parades at midnight.
Gordo
Brian Schmidt
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If those sealed beams don't work or you want to convert them to 12V and the glass is good you got it made.
Simply pry off the glass from the backer and behind there is a normal bulb. It is soldered in. Go get a lamp holder and solder that in. Then you got a replaceable bulb behind the glass sealed beam light. It works great.
I am planning on doing a tech article on this when it warms up in the shed.
Simply pry off the glass from the backer and behind there is a normal bulb. It is soldered in. Go get a lamp holder and solder that in. Then you got a replaceable bulb behind the glass sealed beam light. It works great.
I am planning on doing a tech article on this when it warms up in the shed.
See this is why I like this site. Good advice and great info. Now I can do it either way and now have to choose. But now I have options and I thank you guys for that. This is waht I got so far.
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(quoted from post at 20:06:56 02/22/10) I understand the flat isnt original and I may go back to the tear drops. I have both, but I like the looks of the flats better. I am not sure what is a fair price but I dont think 43 is. Maybe half that but that is my opinion. I mean you can go buy a universal one like it and pay between 10 and 15 bucks. It bugs me when a guy has to pay more for the same thing because its a name brand. Welcome to real life right.
Visit my website. You will find those bulbs for less than $43.
$43 is the going price for the old sealed beams. There wasn't a standard at the time, and it hadn't occurred to people to create standards for these types of things. Each manufacturer had its own bulb, which wasn't a big deal because everything was inexpensive and parts houses could afford to stock several of every style.
You can crowbar a #4411 12V sealed beam, or a #4411 6V sealed beam into the "pancake" light housing, if you grind off that indexing nub on the back, and are VERY careful about it.
The Wagner #4411 and #4511 bulbs are only $11 at Tractor Supply.
They don't fit all that well, but they look okay from a distance.
You can crowbar a #4411 12V sealed beam, or a #4411 6V sealed beam into the "pancake" light housing, if you grind off that indexing nub on the back, and are VERY careful about it.
The Wagner #4411 and #4511 bulbs are only $11 at Tractor Supply.
They don't fit all that well, but they look okay from a distance.
Robert in Md
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Working on my H headlights today, Replaced 2 of the 6 volts bulbs # 1133 , cost $ 1.45 each from local E D Electrical Supply. Napa didn't have them but could order a box of 10 for me for $ 2.75 each. I have no problem with the 6 volt lights or the 6 volt starter.. This tractor has started fine on 6 volts for 60 years for my Grandfather, Uncle and myself.
Robert in Md.
Robert in Md.
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