Dual Fuel Farmall H

Last fall I was able to get my dad s old H back form the son in law of the guy that dad sold it to 35 years ago. The starting tank is missing now but I located a replacement. I was wondering how the fuel lines were run. I know the starting tank had it s own sediment bowl. Did the starting tank line run into the sediment bowl of the main tank? If so there would have to be a place to screw it into. Or was there a T in the line to run the starting tank line?

IIRC it was into the bowl of the main tank. Go to www.triebold.com and go the IH parts look up. There are diagrams of what should and shouldn't be there.

(quoted from post at 20:26:58 02/18/10) Last fall I was able to get my dad s old H back form the son in law of the guy that dad sold it to 35 years ago. The starting tank is missing now but I located a replacement. I was wondering how the fuel lines were run. I know the starting tank had it s own sediment bowl. Did the starting tank line run into the sediment bowl of the main tank? If so there would have to be a place to screw it into. Or was there a T in the line to run the starting tank line?

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Two different methods were used, and I don't know the serial number break, but I think the early version was with the sediment bowl on the starting tank, a petcock (no sediment bowl) under the main tank with a line that ran to the starting tank bowl, and then a line from there around the rear of the engine and to the carburetor. The later version had the petcock under the starting tank with a line running to a sediment bowl under the main tank, and then a line from that bowl to the carburetor. The 2 sediment bowls in question would BOTH have an inlet as well as an outlet, in addition to the inlet that screwed up into the tank.

Thanks for the info This is a spring project so I am lining up parts.

That dual inlet sediment bowl is going to to be tough to find.

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That dual inlet sediment bowl is going to to be tough to find.

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Maybe that guy that had the post on aquiring all the NOS IH parts would have one.

There is a flat boss on the new ones, could you drill and tap it to accept threads? I don't care if it works right, just as long as it looks right It could go into a dead head for all I care.

I was hoping that someone was making the dual inlet sediment bowl. Like the other guy said I could drill and tap into the flat boss but if I went to all that trouble I would want it to work normaly. I would like the starting tank to function as a reserve fuel tank. tho I will probably never use it.

hi i own russ"s new and used tractor parts i work with the duel fuel or kerosene h"s alot but any way i can get you a brand new duel fuel bowel for around $70.00 plus $5.00 shipping and i also have a couple of heat shields for the manafold just email me or give me a call 1-888-261-5176
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hi i own russ"s new and used tractor parts i work with the duel fuel or kerosene h"s alot but any way i can get you a brand new duel fuel bowel for around $70.00 plus $5.00 shipping and i also have a couple of heat shields for the manafold just email me or give me a call 1-888-261-5176
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Where are you located? I just checked out your site, but it didn't say. Can you get 14x38 rims?

14x38 you mean the same style of the h and m"s or what are they for and i am in pa

hi a 14x38 deep drop rim for a farmall or other's is $220.00 plus freight just email me or give me a call if you are intrested

hi there was only 1 sediment bowl and it was on the main tank it had two in and 1 out the small tank just had a petcock and i can get the duel fuel sediment bowl's for about $70.00 plus $5.00 shipping but it will take about a week to come in email me or call me if you are intrested 1-888-261-5176

Russell, no they used bowls on the small tank for certain serial numbers and on the main tank for others. There' a serial # break between locations, think I have the serial numbers somewhere but don't have the time to look now.

hi i was not aware of that and i got a bunch of old parts books dateing bake to 1938 and i can not find that any where any info you got would be great thanks

(quoted from post at 11:24:05 02/19/10) hi i was not aware of that and i got a bunch of old parts books dateing bake to 1938 and i can not find that any where any info you got would be great thanks

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I think he is FOS, too.

I finally got the ambition to look it up. The parts diagram do not show a break for that item, but do show a break when the upgraded the bowl from metal to glass. Here are your p/n's
14 1 49653DC STRAINER/Retired FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (S/N 501 to 50865)
14 1 358245R91 STRAINER ASSY. FUEL STRAINER WITH NUT, 29899D (Will work for 51066DCX) (Gasoline)
14 1 58361DB STRAINER ASSY. FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 50866 up)
14 1 58372DX STRAINER/Retired FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (Metal bowl type) (Distillate or kerosene) (Field change only) (S/N 501 to 50865)

(quoted from post at 11:24:05 02/19/10) hi i was not aware of that and i got a bunch of old parts books dateing bake to 1938 and i can not find that any where any info you got would be great thanks

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I think he is incorrect.

I finally got the ambition to look it up. The parts diagram does not show a break for that item, but does show a break when they upgraded the bowl from metal to glass. Here are your p/n's
14 1 49653DC STRAINER/Retired FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (S/N 501 to 50865)
14 1 358245R91 STRAINER ASSY. FUEL STRAINER WITH NUT, 29899D (Will work for 51066DCX) (Gasoline)
14 1 58361DB STRAINER ASSY. FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 50866 up)
14 1 58372DX STRAINER/Retired FUEL STRAINER WITH 2 NUTS, 29899D (Metal bowl type) (Distillate or kerosene) (Field change only) (S/N 501 to 50865)

Here is what the book says for the little tank. He may be on to something since they switched to a different needle valve, but there is only a needle valve, no strainer, from day 501.
17 1 49654DX FUEL TANK NEEDLE VALVE WITH NUT 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 501 to 15743)
17 1 55474DX VALVE GASOLINE OR FUEL TANK NEEDLE VALVE 55474D WITH NUT, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 15744 up)
17 1 55474D GASOLINE OR FUEL TANK NEEDLE VALVE (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 15744 up)

The fuel lines all say from gas tank to stainer as well. The upgrade to overcome vapor lock from corn picker is peculiar.
18 1 58367DAX FUEL PIPE - gasoline tank to strainer with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 50866 up)
1 222-503 TUBE NUT FUEL TANK NEEDLE VALVE COUPLING NUT (Distillate or kerosene)
1 52643DX PIPE/Retired FUEL PIPE - fuel tank to strainer with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 501 to 15743)
1 55475DX FUEL PIPE - fuel tank to strainer with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 15744 to 50865)
1 58368D GASOLINE TANK, fuel tank, pipes and strainer field change package (To overcome vapor lock when tractor is equipped with corn picker) (Distillate or kerosene) (S
1 58369D GASOLINE TANK, pipes and strainer field change package (To overcome vapor lock when tractor is equipped with corn picker) (Distillate or kerosene) (s/N 15744 to
Here is the distallate to carb line.
15 1 52644DX FUEL PIPE - strainer to carburetor with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 501 to 50865)
15 1 56451DX FUEL PIPE - strainer to carburetor with 2 nuts, 29899D (Gasoline)
15 1 58366DX FUEL PIPE - strainer to carburetor with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 50866 up)

that's what i thought was cprrect but ya never know but i was almost 100% sure there was only one bowel on them thats for the info

For some reason I can't get a picture to post here this evening showing the early layout. If you have a early operators manual it will show a picture of tanks the valve and bowl where instucting when to turn on and off. Plain valve under big tank with line to bowl under small tank. Line from bowl under small tank to carburetor. Up to serial # 50865 was like above. Will try picture agiain at a later time, don't know whats going on. I have to sign in every time I make a post.

Russell, just noticed how the post below below starts off. Since you would like to know more serial # 15743 and up was when they changed fuel tank opening sizes. Haven't owned or noticed a early H for years, but pretty sure I remember the openings on tank were 1/4 pipe threads instead of the 3/8 on later tanks. Serial # 50866 up the bowl location was moved. This is for production tractors, not ones with change over kits added. Early M tractors used a bowl under little tank also.

That still seems a little odd to me... So it ran from a fuel bowl to the two opening fuel bowl to the carb?

I am not sure I believe even the operators manual on what was actually in production. My main example of this is the Ms with red rims.

hi i have a 40 and 41 h and they are both set up the same way and i also got an early manuel and it does not show a set up like that but any way we sort of got of track here some one posted and said i wish some one made the duel fuel bowel and they do i can get them new with a 90 day garntee just give me a call it realy does not matter where you want to monut it