3414 loader tractor

DANWV · Jan 18, 2010

I am looking at a 3414 loader tractor localy and wanted to know if others on this forum have had any experience with them.
What are the pro's and con's of this machine.
I has a 3pt. and a pto shaft.
It seems to be a solid tractor but I have not had the opportunity to start it.
I can see however that it is leaking profusily from under the dash. Looks to be hyd. fluid.
What could it be? steering?
Diesel engine.
Looks to be a bear to access under the dash as the loader seems to be the main frame of the tractor.
Any help or ideas are appreciated.

REDPOWER7120 · Jan 18, 2010

We have a 3514 gas....it is the most gutless tractor ever, but it has tons of hydraulic power and the front end to handle heavy loads, the shuttle shift is great as well. Overall its a great tractor, but the engines in them are very small in both the diesel and gas so dont plan on pullig any plows...

JDemaris · Jan 19, 2010

Very well built tractor. Pretty much just an industrial version of the B-275 and B-414 farm tractors. I have five of them, in all.

Gas has a British BC-144 cube engine. Diesel is the BD-154.

As far as "gutless" goes? I find them to be plenty powerful considering their physical size.

I have two newer Deere machines the same size, and power is no different. Deere uses a 152 diesel and a 135 gas. The IH 3414 uses a 154 diesel and a 144 gas.

Most parts are easy to get, especially for the diesel engine.

REDPOWER7120 · Jan 19, 2010

Put into perspective they are very guttless our 3514 is well over a 10,000 tractor with loader and loaded tires with an 144 cu inch engine, a farmall H that weights 3,700 pounds has a 152 cu inch engine.......so just be aware like i said you wont be doing any plowing with it......

JDemaris · Jan 19, 2010

I wouldn't be fool enough argue with someone that doesn't like his/her tractor. But, "underpowered" is a very relative statement.

My 3414 has all the power it needs for a machine it's size, and it has an industrial loader and backhoe on it.

Comparing the weight means very little. A farm tractor has a PTO that is expected to be used. On an industrial machine, there either is no PTO, or it's a non-issue for regular dirt moving.

My huge Pettibone backhoe loader weighs 17,000 pounds and has a 159 c. i. diesel engine and has all the power it needs. It's real workhorse.

My Deere 1010 crawler-loader weighs 10,000 lbs. and has a 115 c.i. gas engine and also does fine.

Also, why does your 3514 have a 144 engine? I thought it came with the C153 engine, not the British BC144/BD154 like the 3414 uses?

REDPOWER7120 · Jan 19, 2010

The 3514 came with two gas engine sizes i know ours is the smaller of the 2 which i was sure it was the 144 it could be a 153 which still is virtually the same size as an H, and i am not saying we dont like our 3514, but ours came factory without a back hoe but instead the PTO and Three point for pulling the IH Scarfers they came with.

I am sure you pettibone does just fine power wish when all it has to do is move its sell around and whatever may be on its forks, and i am sure your dozer does great when its geared dowm to move at a top speed of 4 mile and hour......I am not here to argue whether your pettibone is powerful or not, all i was trying to tell the guy is that "like i said for hydralic work its fine" but dont plan on pulling anything with it. And i dont know who you are trying to fool when you are saying that weight means very little.....when in fact it does.

I am glad you are proud of the power 3414 is but the reality is that for anything other than a loader its just not there, i just dont want this guy to regret his purchase thats all.....

JDemaris · Jan 19, 2010

Did I say I was "proud" of my 3414? Give me a break. Why are you inserting animosity into this? Did I state anything that is not based on fact? There are many tractors the size of the B414 or 3414 with less power and many with more power. And so what?
As I said, ample power is often just a "relative" thing.

As far as the 3414 goes, it is what it is. A well built, 40 year-old small utilty-sized tractor that weighs around 3800 lbs. and has 36 PTO horsepower. You see that as a problem, and I don't.

In many cases weight can be an asset. Especially in a loader/hoe. The weight to horsepower ratio is not an issue for many uses, unless you want to climb steep hills at 30 MPH.

As to the need for more engine? I've got a Case with a 207 and a Ford with a 172, and I wish they both had smaller engines. They are industrial machines, and both suck a lot more fuel then they need to when used as backhoes (which is all I use them for). If I was doing heavy PTO work, I'd likely feel differently. Any big engine spending most of it's time only making a 1/4 of it's rated power is fuel hog.

REDPOWER7120 · Jan 19, 2010

If you would look at the first message instead of trying to make me look like an idiot you would read it has a 3 point and pto, if this guy is in the market for a loader tractor, why not warn him about the potential for a underpowered machine whan he could for probably the same price find an agriculture based tractor with a 3 point, pto, and loader, and ample horse power to do more than move the bucket up and down and move its self around the yard, he IS NOT BUYING A BACK HOE.......simmer down here JDemaris, just trying to give the guy our input from our farm plus us on the farm would rather have a larger engine its called higher power and throttle down thats where the fuel savings come in

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